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Progress Thread Monkeybutt2000's 89 vert build thread- 408w build in progress

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Monkeybutt2000

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Had a buddy over to help straighten everything out. After we realized someone....ahem...put a muffler on backwards ( I used every swear word..twice) we got it lined out pretty good. I'll have to get it to a exhaust shop once it's running and get it welded. After that we got fuel pressure set and tried to check timing. I'm gonna have to make a mark going all the way to the end of the balancer. Then we found a very slight coolant leak on one of the top water pump bolts. Then the oil feed block started leaking oil. I can't win with this build
 
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Looks like you're winning to me. Those are all small things.
 
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Monkeybutt2000

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90sickfox said:
Looks like you're winning to me. Those are all small things.
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I know,it's just frustrating. I did get both inner tie rods replaced yesterday and the car is on the ground. SO close!
 
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Are you going to align it yourself. You are going to have to somewhat. Mine was so close after four tries that I have not brought it to Firestone yet
 

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I was going to get your SVT tailpipes from LMR, but some of the reviews said the did not fit quite right. I like the way they shine strait thru the whole pipe.
 
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Potomus Pete said:
Are you going to align it yourself. You are going to have to somewhat. Mine was so close after four tries that I have not brought it to Firestone yet
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I just measured the stock ones,then put painters tape on and ran the lock nut up to it. Should be close but I'll have it done. Local guy I know charges $50. As far as the tails, it's just a matter of twisting everything the right way. Definitely helps to have another set of hands,
 

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Don't be so sure you need to weld the exhaust on.
Makes things a headache for the future.
You probably can just slot the muffler inlet and outlets (I've done it with a Sawzall) and use the good band clamps.
Amazon product ASIN B07S1NSVB6View: https://www.amazon.com/SPEEDWOW-Joint-Exhaust-Sleeve-Stainless/dp/B07S1NSVB6/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=Exhaust+Band+Clamps&qid=1590412808&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExVVBIVDFLRlUzRzE3JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzAxNzQ5NkFZRldCSDVBS0JWJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyOTY1MjM4OVMwNjVSV0lJMVYmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl
 
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2000xp8 said:
Don't be so sure you need to weld the exhaust on.
Makes things a headache for the future.
You probably can just slot the muffler inlet and outlets (I've done it with a Sawzall) and use the good band clamps.
Amazon product ASIN B07S1NSVB6View: https://www.amazon.com/SPEEDWOW-Joint-Exhaust-Sleeve-Stainless/dp/B07S1NSVB6/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=Exhaust+Band+Clamps&qid=1590412808&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExVVBIVDFLRlUzRzE3JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzAxNzQ5NkFZRldCSDVBS0JWJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAyOTY1MjM4OVMwNjVSV0lJMVYmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl
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I could probably get away with those on the inlet,but not the outlet. Where the tailpipes come in,there's just too much of a bend to make them work.
 
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Had my tuning appt. with Steve this afternoon. After a few snafus he got down to business. We went over several things and he started his magic. Was getting the idle settled real nice,when I noticed a pretty good coolant leak. It was the hose that runs to the coolant tube. Confirmed fix and started in again with the tune. Unfortunately,I'm not getting a reading from my ACT sensor,so we had to end it right there. And the icing on the cake,the dreaded lower intake at the china rail is leaking oil BAD. Murphy's law,every time. Would like to thank Steve for being patient,had him on the hook for over 4 hours. Oh,and if you don't know Steve,he's a91what.On a positive note,the car idles really nice now,it's not burning my eyes at all. At least when I get it back together I can get the cooling system burped and be on point for the next tuning session
 
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Steve is the man !!! He had my car running great with a hidden vacuum leak. Now, that it's fixed, he got it running even better. It's amazing what he can do over an interwebs connection.

First starts are always a pain. All types of ish goes wrong. The biggest part is getting it started and idling at all.
 
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Ding ding, round three. Got a fresh set of 1250s,that china wall can kiss my ass
 
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The instructions in the gasket pack really work. I followed them...except I trimmed the valley gaskets ends to fit ( cork ) after I sealed the head side of the gasket down around the coolant ports ( just snug ). I used right stuff gasket maker above and below the cork gasket and torqued it down. Make sure surfaces don't have any oil on them. Also, must check and make sure the gasket doesn't try to shift. It's a 2 part process explained on that piece of paper. They say don't put gasket sealer on the gasket. I always do...unless I'm using the blue neoprene valley gaskets.

I also used studs to help line the intake and gasket up.
 
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agreed, I keep a set of all-thread studs for intake alignment and then remove them for the bolts
 
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Car is buttoned back up and running. The new act sensor I installed on the car last fall was bad. No reading from the ohm meter. Luckily,my stock intake still had the act,so I tested it and it was good. Now just waiting to link up with Steve and get this tune straight.
 
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@a91what was able to squeeze me into today to tune Project PITA. Everything was going good, and it came time to actually drive the car! It felt great to actually drive it. Anyway,we're in the tuning process,and I'm driving the car around,and it's getting progressively hotter. I voice my concern to Steve,and got the car back home in the drive. It was HOT! Around 250* I got the hood up and a fan on it to cool it down. Pressure released the cap with the lever and after a bit got the cap off. Put some more coolant in and started it up,boiled over immediately and probably contaminated the water supply on the south side of town. Got the cap back on,no change got hot again. At this point.I'm obviously extremely frustrated. Ever since the turbo install,it's been nothing but one small disaster after another. On a positive note,the car ran great. Steve definitely knows what he's doing with the MS system, and he's VERY patient. The car is right there man, just need the cards to fall my way.
 
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What fan are you using ?
 
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90sickfox said:
What fan are you using ?
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Stock fan and radiator. I know,everybody runs aftermarket . Well, close friend had a 10sec 93 Cobra 20yrs ago running stock setup with no issues. I played with it today and it seems that it just had air in the system. Gonna drive it tomorrow to see where I'm at.
 
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I hope it was just an air bubble. The stock fan and radiator is strong...with the stock shroud. With my on3 kit there was no way I could fit the shroud in without cutting the bottom off of it.

Scored a contour fan out of some other car at the JY. Cost me less than 20 bucks. My mspnp2 controls high and low fans. The hottest I've seen is about 212°. The normal temp is about 203°.... I run a 192° thermostat.
 
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Aaaaand Murpy's Law rears it's head.....still got hot. Removed thermo and tested, opened fully. Went ahead and ordered a Champion 2 core radiator. As far as water pump,I'll take a recommendation but probably going with an Autozone HD unit. Wanted a Motorcraft but LMR is on backorder til the 19th.
 

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Monkeybutt2000 said:
As far as water pump,I'll take a recommendation
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My favorites;

Flowcooler water pump, heavy bearings, nice impeller
Edelbrock makes a good one
Ford racing
 
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