Mustang5l5's Progress Thread - Archived Progress thread '08-'20.

[Mustang5L5]

Unfortunately will need to wait til spring to find out. By the time I get to all 4 brakes, white stuff will prob be flying and I won't take the car out to bed the brakes with cold frozen pavement and tires. No grip

Either way, huge difference in "attitude" in the car with the rotors and physically bigger calipers.

Now I actually have to do engine mods. Haven't yet because I'm thinking of foregoing the 40P heads and going with something aluminum. Not worth the effort for iron heads imho. I do want to keep the cobra intake though. I love the look



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I would have ground it off, but get where you are coming from. So you only purchased one side so far?

Only need one caliper (the red part). I have the abutment brackets and pads and rotors and hardware.

I wanted to make sure it was actually going to work before I went crazy buying parts. I paid $50 shipped for that red caliper because there were a few scratches and chips. It was brand new.

Just waiting for another one to pop up on eBay. I have time so trying to find a similar deal until I'm really in need of one. In the meantime I can pull the cobra stuff off replace the hub and get the new rotor and bracket on, and paint the sn95 cobra rear calipers. So basically I have enough to keep me busy while I search


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Ok minor updates simply because I can't get much done when I only get an hour and there to sneak off.

But next project. Would you believe I have less than 200 miles on these rotors? Sitting for 4 years takes its toll. Surface is pitted badly. Prob be ok if I turned them though so I'll save them. I have a few goodies already installed back here

Brakes stripped down. Time for some elbow grease cleaning this up.

I need to remove caliper to paint. Thinking of temp installing the front Mach caliper just to keep line from bleeding down while open.

Teaser of new rotor

Question. Painting calipers red to match front. Paint abutments black, or red like the 10th anniversary cobra calipers?

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10th rear calipers as comparison

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That's awesome. Brake swaps seem to be full of questions on which master cylinder. Have you done any investigating there?

For the Corvette PBR's? They use 40mm pistons, same as the Mach 1 calipers I ran before. No MC changes needed. I'm running a 1" 1993 Cobra MC and SN95 booster with adjustable PV. Brake performance has always been great...even excessive at times for street use on such a light car. I barely touch the pedal to stop during normal cruising around.

When I get the brakes all set, I really need to focus on making the car faster.

 

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I agree with all red on the back calipers/brackets. Those new rotors look slick, btw.

Red it is then. Time to start a cleanup of the area with some hot water and rag, maybe some paint and then reassemble. I really need a set of quad shocks too. I do get wheel hop even with all aftermarket suspension back there.


Rotors are the Eline rotors from R1 concepts. Made in china unfortunately, but what isn't. I know I should just resurface my OEM rotors, but I wanted some bling bling and nearest place to me to resurface them is a 40 min ride and $30/rotor. Car is mostly a cruiser, so hopefully I never crack them. Just going for the "look at me" approach for now


On a related note, I purchased the passenger side front caliper. So now I can do the opposite side as well. Just slowly making my way around the car. House projects are taking priority and this past weekend I installed some recessed lighting, demo'ed a wall and did some reframing and sheetrock.

 

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Got the other side. Just need slide pins now

Oh and since I mentioned larger pad area before. Found some literature on the new 1997 C5 that specifically mentioned the newer PBRs gained 35% more pad surface area than the c4 (same caliper as cobra).

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Slow weekend. Figure toss a few pics up.

Hot water and soap cleaning. Began painting the calipers but total pita. The duplicator brush paint was too thick and gobbed up. The spray paint was fragile and chunks came off just putting the pads in.

Sooooo

Rockauto.com has powdercoated red Cobra calipers for $44 each plus $22 core.

I figure my time and sanity was worth at least that considering the effort and $$ I've spent so far.

Oh, and I will not be shipping back perfectly good cobra calipers for $44 minus shipping (prob $10). For the $30 or so I'll keep em.

Anyway. Delivery is Thursday. So we wait....again.

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Ok started going through some of my junk. Prob will start to offload some. I could use the space and mod seed money.

Still can't bring myself to ditch these. One day I'll get tires And put them on

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These were worth it. So nice and much better than I could have done.

Off to bolt one on

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And done. Onto the other side

Well worth the $60


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Back on the ground

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Slight change in direction. Since it's 15 degrees out....some AC work

Sick of moving these around, so time to clean, paint and install.

Gonna get a Reman compressor, this one been sitting open for years. It will be my core but until then it will be temp installed


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A little cleaning and paint later.

I'll toss that extra compressor bracket on eBay. Figure I need to reduce my hoard.

And yes, the ford model T wheel clock says it's getting pretty damn cold up here

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Ok, fail on the compressor reinstall. I thought I had all the parts I needed but I guess not. Lacking the two main power steering studs, and one bolt for the small AL bracket into the head.

Found this out AFTER taking it all apart. Had to put it back together as I need to move the car around to do the other two brakes. I'm not pushing it.

On the hunt for hardware. If anyone has this stuff, let me know.

Anyway, time to work on the brakes again

 

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Since it was warm out (50s is warm to me) I tackled brakes of the DD.

13" rear disks. Amazing what they put on normal cars these days

Stuck a 17" Bullitt wheel on just to see

17's are too small for this car

 

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I thought so too, but the bolts with the ford delete kit are too short. On the delete, the two bolts thread into the bracket that bolts to the head.

On the ac setup, the stud and bolt thread directly into the head as pass through the bracket. So they are longer.

Quick check on eBay. People asking $40......each!

Pick for reverence.. I need the two bolts on the far right. You can see how top stud passes through the rear bracket and into the head.

 

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So wait... What ended up being the total cost of the brake swap? Roughly, or did I miss that?

Depends. Total cost of my entire 5-lug conversion? Or to just swap the Cobra calipers over to the Vette PBRS?

If the later, I think I mentioned it, but here it is again. I purchased all 100% NEW parts. Nothing was used.

Corvette calipers ($200 NEW. Paid $50 for one, and $150 for the second)
SN95 specific abutments from Baer ( $270 NEW ouch)
Brake hardware (~$30 for pins, boots, and antirattle clips for both sides)
Pads ($20 for Bendix ceramic)

So $520 overall. Debating if I sell my Mach 1 calipers. Could prob get $200-250 on Ebay for them.

The abutments were the killer and made this swap a little more pricey than I wanted. I could have used the Z51 abutments for $50 each, but I would have had to use the larger GM spindle bolts, and modified the SN95 spindle slightly by enlarging one of the holes. Cheaper yes, but I wanted a true 100% bolt on setup.

I did toss on new rotors, but I could have used my OEM Cobra 13" rotors if they were in better shape. I also replaced one hub that was junk for $45

I could have used 05-06 GTO calipers which were much cheaper. The abutments are useless but the caliper is the same as the vette minus the lettering. I was seeing $100 a pair, so that could have knocked off $100 from my swap making this a $150 or so conversion had I gone with the GTO caliper instead.

 

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Very nice. I have the majority of my Cobra Conversion just sitting around. I may take this route. Not certain yet.

If you do go this route, the brackets from Baer are P/N CBK332325. You'll have to call and order as they aren't anywhere on the site.

Only watchout is if you run 17" wheels and use stick on wheel weights. They may strike the caliper. I'm going to put a weight on and spin my wheel and see just how much clearance I have exactly as I prefer stick-on weigts.

 

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Dyed up some headrests