Over heating??

95_cobra123

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Hey guys just got all the stuff put n the cobra msd and the new t-stat in.

its has been over heating for the last few yrs i had a 160deg in and i put in a 180. the car still runs hot.
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here is where it runs i think the fan is kicking on to late but thats me it does have under drives on it.

Thank Guys
Brien
 
As I've been told many times, the dash gauge is notoriously inaccurate. What you need to do is find out what the actual temperature is. The stock low fan settings turns the fan on at 208* (I believe) and turns off at 200*. Your gauge may just be reading high. If you have a code reader that can read PIDs (live sensor data, including the ECT temp sensor), you can tell what temperature the computer is reading from the coolant.

I have something similar in my new GT. I thought the car was going to overheat and the fan was not turning on. But after some research, I found my fan IS turning on at the right temperature - my dash gauge is just reading high.

Your cooling system may not be holding enough pressure. Physics 101: coolant at a certain pressure holds a set amount of heat at a specific temperature. If you lower the pressure, the temperature goes up even though the water is just as hot.

Put another way: our engines would "overheat" according to the gauge if we didn't have a radiator cap - the coolant would boil out long before the engine was in any danger. So if your coolant system isn't holding 16lbs of pressure, the coolant may be reading warmer than it is supposed to.

Here's an example. I was having similar overheating issues on my Green GT. I splurged on a coolant pressure tester - it's basically an air pump hooked up to a special radiator cap. It lets you pressurize your coolant system without heating the coolant. I pumped up the pressure, got to 10lbs and heard dribbling water. It was a loose hose clamp. Repeated the process several times - most of my hose clamps were not tight enough. After this "whack-a-mole" with my coolant system, it held a good 16lbs of pressure and my temp gauge read lower than it did before.
 
I had the same problem. Put in a 190 Therm and gauge read exactly the same. So hooked up a manual temp guage and found my car ran about 200 degrees. My cooling fan came on at 210 degrees. (courtesy of my buddys scanner) Replaced the coolant tempature sensor $5 and it reads correctly. Cythar is right the gauges do go bad.
 
As noted, get a real gauge so you can tell what's really going on. If the gauge stays cooler the whole time you're on the freeway, it's probably just your fan temp threshold.

A quick overview of cooling system considerations. There's a link to doing a set of manual fan switches in the narrative.
 
if i am on the high way it stay way down around the n and o.

Since your gauge is between M and A (~212*F) when you're in traffic and down between N and O (~191*F) on the highway, that tells me your fan is possibly kicking in too late (assuming the gauge to be accurate).
Check if the fan works at all while the gauge is climbing towards the M and see when the low speed or high speed fan does kick in. It's quite possible that your ECT sensor is at fault but before you replace it, you could try testing it first. This page tells you how:

Ford Fuel Injection Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor (ECT)

Check the voltage and the resistance across the sensor immediately when the fan kicks in and check the reading on the dash gauge at the same time. Report the results back to us so we can see where the problem lies. The information will also be useful to find out what the gauge is actually reading.
 
You might need a decent gauge to actually see the temp drop (due the aforementioned hystersis built into the stock gauge).

If you have to, do some testing with an IR thermometer to see if the fan is indeed helping.
 
If you have a good code reader (such as Autoxray) that can read PIDs (engine sensor data), you can see the temperature that the computer sees. This should be not too far off from the dash gauge. My dash gauge is very off, it shows my engine "overheating" when it's within operating temperature.