Playing catch up to z28's...

CobraSVT95 · Aug 30, 2004

hey guys whats up!

well stangers need your imput... a cousin of mine just bought a stock 94 5spd gt and he was wondering what he would all have to do to make his car as fast or faster than a stock z28

thanks for all replies

94GTLaserRC · Aug 30, 2004

Try the Camaro boards
RC

CPSTACKMONEY · Aug 30, 2004

Mass Air, Full Exhaust, Gears, Drag radials, pullies, Intake

mattkimsey · Aug 30, 2004

If your talkin about LT1 camaros than he wouldn't need a lot, just some bolt ons and dr's. To keep up with newer Ls1s he would need h/c/i, because those cars are about 290-310rwhp.

CPSTACKMONEY · Aug 30, 2004

Not so, A little bit of good driving and the right few select mods (namely low gears) and a STOCK Ls1 will fall behind. But not a modified one.

mto502 · Aug 30, 2004

CPSTACKMONEY said:
Not so, A little bit of good driving and the right few select mods (namely low gears) and a STOCK Ls1 will fall behind. But not a modified one.

On a 94 GT ? The LS1 will walk all over him with just gears. The Gt may take the 1st 200 ft, but it's over after that.

I suppose if you're talking about light to light the GT may have a chance but on the 1320' the LS1 will prevail. Now saying "the right few select mods" is a little general but I'm assuming by your statement that you're not talking about many mods or expensive ones either.

You'll need heads, cam and intake at least ! Most LS1's are putting down easily 305 rwhp completely stock.

Venom351R · Aug 30, 2004

screw it, just put on a blower and take down LS1 camaros to.

SWYZ721 · Aug 30, 2004

The LS1 and even the LT1 are good engines are similar to the 4.6 and the 5.0, both the LS1 and 4.6 Being the higher-revving engines as well as the most current, and the 5.0 and LT1 having more low end grunt as well as being the older engines, with the LT1 putting down around 240RWHP and the LS1 around 310RWHP which is a few bolt-ons away from hitting stock Cobra power, in the LS1's case.

Unless you went with a very agressive cam and had an all NA setup it would be very hard, but possible, task to keep up with a well-modded LS1, now stock it can be done quite much more easily, with bolt-ons and gears and definately a good intake mani. Heads will get you there easily, and a nice, soft 50hit off the hose would do nicely.

wytstang · Aug 30, 2004

or

CPSTACKMONEY · Aug 30, 2004

I didn't mean just gears, need a lot better intake track and a full exhaust and you have to be a good driver of course.

gcomfx.com · Aug 30, 2004

gears and a 75 shot beat an SS in the 1/4 in my AODE....

On the street the 100 shot would walk MANY of the newer camaros.... maybe it's cause I shocked them, maybe it's because they couldn't drive. But that's their problem not mine. LOL

http://gcomfx.com/pages/stang/movies.htm

miamistang22 · Aug 30, 2004

gcomfx.com said:
gears and a 75 shot beat an SS in the 1/4 in my AODE....

On the street the 100 shot would walk MANY of the newer camaros.... maybe it's cause I shocked them, maybe it's because they couldn't drive. But that's their problem not mine. LOL

http://gcomfx.com/pages/stang/movies.htm

i got a 95. i got 3.55 gears a cold air intake, stock exhaust, and a 100 dry shot. my car runs 12.7 at 108. So i say spray the damn beast and call it a day.

CobraSVT95 · Aug 31, 2004

what he really trying to beat is a stock SS with the exception of corsa exhaust

i told him no but this is the list that he thought he would be even with him...

shorties
o/r h
flows
70mm tb
cai
75mm maf
cobra intake
u/d pullies
3.73 gears
pro 5.0
dr's
1.8 crane roller rockers

red ink · Aug 31, 2004

lol 1.8 RR? I dont think they make those man...I walk LT1's all day long in my car. Even SS's. mods are in my sig.
You have the right idea with your parts list but in the long run your friend is just gonna spend more money buying parts he really needs. Dont waste money on Shortie headers. Dont get a 75mm MAF. I personally think CAI are a BS mod but they look nice and probably help our cars stay cooler in hot traffic and weather.
If it were mine id get
1. 3.73 rear end gears
2. Prom plastic 80mm MAF (cheapest but still good)
3. Mac/BBK Lt headers, o/r h, And an SS mac catback from partshopper. 310 bucks with a rebate. cant go wrong
4. 125 zex nitrous kit
5. Trick flow intake manifold
6. FMS 65mm throttle body
7. MSD 6al Ignition (i think it makes ALOT of a difference)
Thats about 2000$ in mods and he'd probably be able to take an LS1 too
When i think about all the mods i've done to my car i regret doing so many little things and probably coulda got a turbo kit and ran low 12's without anything else. Hp performance quoted me 5557 dollars for a full kit and tune installed. But thats alot of money. So it depends on how much your friend wants to spend

CobraSVT95 · Aug 31, 2004

sorry man totally meant 1.7 rr

but his setup is practically his already because he seriously made a deal he cant pass up

and also i want to know with this how close is he to the ss

AznStanger3v · Aug 31, 2004

red ink said:
lol 1.8 RR? I dont think they make those man...I walk LT1's all day long in my car. Even SS's. mods are in my sig.
You have the right idea with your parts list but in the long run your friend is just gonna spend more money buying parts he really needs. Dont waste money on Shortie headers. Dont get a 75mm MAF. I personally think CAI are a BS mod but they look nice and probably help our cars stay cooler in hot traffic and weather.
If it were mine id get
1. 3.73 rear end gears
2. Prom plastic 80mm MAF (cheapest but still good)
3. Mac/BBK Lt headers, o/r h, And an SS mac catback from partshopper. 310 bucks with a rebate. cant go wrong
4. 125 zex nitrous kit
5. Trick flow intake manifold
6. FMS 65mm throttle body
7. MSD 6al Ignition (i think it makes ALOT of a difference)
Thats about 2000$ in mods and he'd probably be able to take an LS1 too
When i think about all the mods i've done to my car i regret doing so many little things and probably coulda got a turbo kit and ran low 12's without anything else. Hp performance quoted me 5557 dollars for a full kit and tune installed. But thats alot of money. So it depends on how much your friend wants to spend

an SS is the LT1

CobraSVT95 · Aug 31, 2004

correct me if i am wrong but a ss does have more power than the regular lt1

and will my cousin even be close

mattkimsey · Aug 31, 2004

the SS is just a name, they come with different wheels, hood, little different suspention, badges, and are more rare. No performance difference between SS and Z28 or WS6 and regular trans am.

mto502 · Aug 31, 2004

17yrOldStanger said:
an SS is the LT1

It is? I must be nuts then because I was under the impression they came with an LS1 in 2000-2002 !

mattkimsey · Aug 31, 2004

the 96 and 97 Camaro had the LT1 SS and 98-02 SS had the LS1

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