It's nice to see some reality being injected into this thread as of late. I've resisted posting several times, because it was just complete nonsense.
No 2V GT is going to outrun an LS1 ANYTHING in bolt-on form. I don't care if it's M6or auto.
The auto/M6 LS1 F-bodies are rocketships, and their GTO counterparts are heavy but also extremely stout.
People who beat LS1s in their mildly modified GTs are facing terrible drivers, simply put. You can't possibly scientifically analyze a situation where a bolt-on GT beats an LS1 and not pin the causation on either LS1 Driver Error, or some other external variable (LS1 driver's engine exploded, he was racing on the grass shoulder, he was racing in Low Earth Orbit.)
These are low 13 second cars with the right driver, STOCK. 300rwhp STOCK. I've seen it with my own eyes.
I'm not as well versed with the LS1 GTOs, but I know this. Stock M6 GTOs in LS1 form run low 13's STOCK. Traction, a few cheap mods, and some track time = high 12's. The automatic GTOs are just as quick as the M6 cars, just like the F-bodies were.
My 4.10 geared 250rwhp '98 GT could holeshot the living ish out of my brother's stock 300rwhp '99 Z28 M6. I had him all the way through 1st gear (3.37 1st gear and 4.10s tend to do that, when you're not sliding sideways from lack of traction.) Once he rowed through 2nd and 3rd, it was over. There is no "lead to be held" against an LS1. Given open blacktop and functioning motor skills, an LS1 driver will mow down a GT, simply because they've got enough power to compensate for their relatively soft launching abilities.
Don't throw factoids my way like "Bolt-on GTs run 12s" and "Blah Blah this and that." I'm aware of what a bolt-on GT can do, at the track, with stickies and some gearing (and a great driver.) But comparing apples to apples, in a street contest, with all the variables, on street meats? My money goes on the LS1.
Unless you've got numbers, any street war story is anecdotal.
You bumped this thread for this nonsense?intake(Cold Air and throttle body), exhaust, 4.10 gears....ur set =))
You bumped this thread for this nonsense?
Wow
From a launch (with the built auto) i took one twice in the 1/8th. From a roll or 1/4 i'm not even sureyeah...seriously?
i still havent lined up next to a ls1
From a launch (with the built auto) i took one twice in the 1/8th. From a roll or 1/4 i'm not even sure- but he had a few bolt ons too.
I've raced 2 different LS1 GTO's (both auto).
GTO w/ SLP catback - I got a 1/2 car jump and held it through 110.
GTO w/ unkown mods - dead even through 95.
GTO's are not as quick as you may think.
Correction LS1 goats are not a quick as you might think, LS2's are a whole other ball game
My buddy has a 05 goat and its got some balls but I called him out to go the track with me and he won't so who knows. With my mach, I would say driver's race, I would win at a dig he would win at a roll.
Wasnt the auto new edge GTs rated at like 15.1 at 93 mph by car and driver, enough said.
intake(Cold Air and throttle body), exhaust, 4.10 gears....ur set =))
I suggest you spend a lot more time at a dragstrip than reading magazine times from the ****tiest drivers.Wasnt the auto new edge GTs rated at like 15.1 at 93 mph by car and driver, enough said.
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