Saleen S281E or 03 Cobra? Need help?

jcramair1

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I have owned a couple of foxbody mustangs in the past 10 years and know a decent amount about them. I sold my last Lx (saleen replica) about 3 years ago and miss it very much, specially the low end grunt and sound

I am in the market for a Saleen S281 and want to acheive about 750RWHP. In the past few weeks I have thought about going with an 03 Cobra Vert, but don't know which car will be easier to achieve my goals. I love the looks of the Saleen more and it's in most cases more rare than the Cobra, but the more and more I read some threads I see some people achieving big numbers in the Cobra. I don't like the looks of the Cobra out of the box, but if I were to get one I would definitely spend a decent amount on wheels and suspension. My questions are these:

1. Are the internals on the Saleen 281E and the 03 Cobra the same?

2. Which will be an easier feat to attain over 750RWHP?

John

 

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S351 all day!!!!!!

 

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Why do you say S351? I noticed that there are a couple of 99 S351's for sale on autotrader. Are the internals on this motor forged and will it handle more boost?

 

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jcramair1 said:

Why do you say S351? I noticed that there are a couple of 99 S351's for sale on autotrader. Are the internals on this motor forged and will it handle more boost?

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Yes, they have forged internaled 351 and come with a Vortech supercharger.
With a little tweaking they are monsters.

Someone post the Saleen Flyby video

 

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get the 03 cobra. don't get the S281E, its way overpriced IMO.

 

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I second the s-351 idea

 

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S351
www.undergroundracing.com/video/SaleenFlybySmall.wmv

 

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s351 or cobra...s281-e also has forged internals and I think saleen series 4 or 5? blower
for the price of a s281-e you can have a brand new 04 cobra with a KB 2.4L blower and be at 750rwhp.

 

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stallion98gt said:

s351 or cobra...s281-e also has forged internals and I think saleen series 4 or 5? blower
for the price of a s281-e you can have a brand new 04 cobra with a KB 2.4L blower and be at 750rwhp.

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The KB supercharger alone will increase the 04 cobra up to 750RWHP?? I am assuming that some drivetrain mods have to be done and some rearend work? How well does the clutch handle and transmission with this much power? Thanks for the input.

 

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yeah with the new KB 2.4L blower u should be close to 750 rwhp. t56 trans should be able to make it.

 

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http://www.kennebell.net/superchargers/ford/cobra03/cobra03_2400.htm

From KB website:

"366 stock + 400= 766* with throttle body, exhaust and cams
Power levels above 766HP require 71 lb injectors, larger inlet components, fuel lines etc. "

 

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The KB Blowzilla kit is amazing I canb't believe that it makes that much power on the Cobra. The internals on the Cobra motor must be bullet proof ...

 

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jcramair1 said:

The KB Blowzilla kit is amazing I canb't believe that it makes that much power on the Cobra. The internals on the Cobra motor must be bullet proof ...

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A lot of Cobra motors have been failing with over 500 RWHP.

If money was no issue, I would go with the Saleen 281 E or get the S351. Better looking, rarer car.

Cobra is better bang for the buck.

 

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how about a Saleen Cobra

-Mike

 

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jcramair1 said:

The KB Blowzilla kit is amazing I canb't believe that it makes that much power on the Cobra. The internals on the Cobra motor must be bullet proof ...

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Not bullet proof. Getting 700 RWHP out of an E will be pretty much impossible.

 

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I see you also have a 2002 Porsche 911 turbo. I love that car. My dad had a 2002 Speed Yellow w/ black interior. It also had Tiptronic. Is yours 6 speed? And what upgrades do you have on it. (ex: Evolution Motorsports Stage 4)?

 

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jaysal555 said:

I see you also have a 2002 Porsche 911 turbo. I love that car. My dad had a 2002 Speed Yellow w/ black interior. It also had Tiptronic. Is yours 6 speed? And what upgrades do you have on it. (ex: Evolution Motorsports Stage 4)?

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It has an Evolution Motorsports Stage 4GTR and will soon have a new fuel system to hold more boost for the race program which is will put me at about 650RWHP. Just waiting on the release from GIAC. Here is a pic:

 

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I say if money isnt an issue, get the E and wait for the KB 2.2L 2V kit. If you dont want to wait, theres been a lot of Novi 2K cars well over 600 to the wheels. Plus you will have a rare car that is very nice looking!

Edit: If money is no issue, get one of those above, awesome car! ^

 

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DJT03GT said:

Edit: If money is no issue, get one of those above, awesome car! ^

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That is is current car, he is buying a mustang in addition to that (from my understanding)

Why would he want to be confined to the 2v heads. I think he should go with the cobra (or Saleen Cobra, same difference) that way he has more potential.

-Mike

 

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Cobra!