Salesman is ticking me off

[eric n]

and welcome back to reality....

You put down a deposit on the Shelby that doesn't exist yet, and wanted to drop another 5g on a non existant car the next week If you are in a position to throw around that kind of coin on nothing then you should at least have the smarts to just put the extra $ in a seperate account of your own and at least get a little bit of interest off of the $, since that is all the dealer will do with it. what are they going to do with extra $ you put down start a bank account for you out of the kindness of thier hearts? Your deposit basically said ok here's your waiting list not ok here's your car. When the time comes for the 07 GT500's I SERIOUSLY doubt they will be sold ANYWHERE near MSRP. Just look at the mark ups dealers are getting for the GT's now.

My dealership isn't marking up GT's right now. Further you could get the first one on the lot for msrp. Sure they had couple of grand MARKET ADJUSTMENT, on the window, but they were more than willing to make it go away if you said, "I'm not paying that." You are absolutely right that the GT500 looks like a sure candidate for MARKET ADJUSTMENT, and while I have the word of my super conciencious salesman (sarcasm) that msrp will be honored, I know that it clearly may not. I should likely go down talk with the sales manager and get her to verify the position of the dealership, then get my lawyer to draw up something more serious than a reciept with, "to be sold at msrp" on it.

Further, Yep, I can put down that kind of coin. Interest right now in a bank account is a joke. Even the whole 44k (figuring taxes and associated fees) left in a bank for 1 year would create little more than change, I don't want to sound like some big shot, cuz I'm far from rich, but I make a decent living and for I live well within my means. If I wanted to invest the money for a year there are many more creative and lucrative ways to do it. And I've always got a couple little things working.


My thought, and obviously many of the pretty darn smart posters on this board think it's not a good thought (so it sure might not be) is that, my FORD dealership has a bazillion guys now Putting their name on the list. Most don't have the change to get the car. Most aren't going to be able to pull it off. Wife says no, cash flow sucks right now, insurance won't cover it, had some credit problems I didn't know about, etc. I wanted to separate myself from other buyers by making frequent stops by with small packets of dead presidents. So that when they see the first SHELBY drop by, my name is the first they think of. So their only question is who get's the second and third car, cuz #1 goes to that nut who won't leave us alone......ME!

Oh well..... we'll see next week after I go down and speak with someone with a little more altitude on the food chain.

 

[Wsmatau]

Dan is either the most patient man on the planet or just doesn't mind being ignored by customer service professionals. He told me I wa being ridiculous for wanting a response from Kenne Bell about questions I had about their product.
I don't think you are wrong for wanting to impress upon the salesman/dealership that you are serious about the car. I think any more than $6k is excessive. I do think you are making a mistake by trying to force this dealer to act the way a dealership "should." Unfortunately having the money to make the purchase doesn't mean they are willing to play by your rules...even if you are not being unreasonable. Just keep shopping. I wouldn't give anyone a commission that put me off like that.

 

[macca]

Eric, you are on right for the most part. However I would suggest you dont waste another second of your time on this guy. Go way over his head and if his attitude is a dealership disease, move onto another one.

One thing I've learned in my car buying experiences is that the industry seems to attract a lot, and I mean A LOT of losers. Some of them act like "pimps with a day job"...they try to screw anything that moves to make as much money as fast as possible. So to a "pimp" - returning a call on someone who he cant "screw" for another year 'just don't make no sense at all'.

I try to work around these people and move on higher up the foodchain until I get lucky.
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A salesman is driving toward home in northern Ontario when he sees an Indian thumbing for a ride on the side of the road. As the trip had been long and quiet, he stops the car and the Indian gets in.

After a bit of small talk, the Indian notices a brown bag on the front seat. "What's in bag?", the Indian asks the driver.

The driver says, "It's a bottle of wine. I got it for my wife."

The Indian is silent for a moment then says, "Good trade."

 

[PolkThug]

Your salesman probably doesn't care because he's not making a dime off you right now, and the chances of him still being at that dealership by the time the GT500's arrive are slim to none.

 

[cleveland]

Somebody (Eric N) is crazy to think that I was sexist in my comment. Loved reading that rant btw.

-Dan

 

[eric n]

Somebody (Eric N) is crazy to think that I was sexist in my comment. Loved reading that rant btw.

-Dan

Absolutely right. You decided that the receptionist (FEMALE) was not incompetent and at fault for something a the salesMAN did. You did this with absolutely no evidence which even mildly suggested that she blew it.

I don't know one way or another if you are sexist. It would be stupid to make any real assumptions about your personality based on a message board post. That said, I must say that not making assumptions, I'd be rather dense not to see the possibility in your post.

 

[jfrayzier]

True, but...

Plus your trying to get a dealer to adhear to a sticker price when you know their going to shove the stickers 5-10K up when the first come in. Its definitly a lost cause.

This is true, but it sounded like he made a deal to get the car at MSRP. Federal law requires that the sticker show the MSRP. That way, the buyer will have knowledge of how much the car was marked up.

They don't have to sell it at MSRP, but they do have to display what the MSRP is on the sticker.

But, like I said, it sounds like they had at least a verbal agreement to purchase the car for MSRP.

I can't afford a Cobra myself, but my dealer is slated to receive 3. They have already made deals and taken deposits on 5 on a first come, first served basis.

Actually, my dealership sold more GTs than any other in Virginia. They end up buying them from other dealerships for $1k over MSRP. Then they mark them up and sell them here. The other dealership wins, too, because they made $1k and didn't have to pay a salesman or do any paperwork or anything.

 

[Kerrdogg]

If anyone is truely serious about getting a great deal on any car find a large dealer in your neck of the woods and see if they have a fleet department. Ask to speak to one of fleet managers and see how long he has been at that dealership, less than a 3 years, move on. The guy I deal with is on his 20th year at the same store, will sell me anything Mustang GT's, Saleens, Cobra's ect (didn't try for a new GT, need a reliable car ) including the new Shelby at D plan. He also works his own deals on trades and is very generous. This guy never has to leave his desk and he has two other guys working for him, refferals are his game along with quanity sales.

 

[Vandil]

Stick around awhile Clevelands pretty good at stepping on toes accidentally himself.

He's just not the type to candy coat anything he says and sometimes writes in a way that can have more than one interpretation.

 

[cleveland]

I can be very blunt and straight to the point in my text.

Its interesting that I am gaining a reputation, again.

-Dan

 

[corgan]

Your salesman probably doesn't care because he's not making a dime off you right now, and the chances of him still being at that dealership by the time the GT500's arrive are slim to none.

100% right. By the time the first shelby hits the lot he will have already worked at 2 or 3 other dealerships. There's nothing in it for him, business deals are suppose to benefit both parties. You can't expect or assume he's going to care because most don't unless there's something in it for them right away. Just don't expect people at ANY dealership to lick the ground you walk on just because you throw 5 grand here and 5 grand there. Your not getting anywhere like that. Just pay the minimum to get on the list.

Also, when these things hit the lots they will be HOT and HARD for dealerships to get. Don't expect the dealership to call you up and say, "hey bud, we got your car in today, just bring us a check for MSRP and it's yours". I can gaurantee you they will not be selling there first one for MSRP. But if you want to just throw money around you had better find someone in the dealership who you can trust and then pass them the money "under the table". Don't get me wrong though, I mean no flame. Just don't expect a car dealer to actually WANT to help you unless their a great bud of course.