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Severe Oil Blow By, need help fast!

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TT91

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Good to know, thanks
 

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04sleeper said:
Hey Mike. Don't leave the filter in it. It will dissenigrate with synthetic oil and works just as well without it.
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When you say filter, you mean the metal mesh right? I cant see metal disentegrating just from oil.
 

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87stangdiddle said:
When you say filter, you mean the metal mesh right? I cant see metal disentegrating just from oil.
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They are not all made out of metal. They also work better without the filter anyway so I would just run without it. Thats what all us Cobra owners do.
 

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"They also work better without the filter anyway..."

Sleeper - as long as the screen is metal, it should help the function of the separator - as the mesh should serve to knock oil out of the vapor stream allowing it to drop into the separator. I use in-line metal screen fuel filters at the inlet of my catch can for the same reason. Seems to be quite effective.
 

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Michael Yount said:
"They also work better without the filter anyway..."

Sleeper - as long as the screen is metal, it should help the function of the separator - as the mesh should serve to knock oil out of the vapor stream allowing it to drop into the separator. I use in-line metal screen fuel filters at the inlet of my catch can for the same reason. Seems to be quite effective.
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Michael has spoken lol
 

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Michael Yount said:
"They also work better without the filter anyway..."

Sleeper - as long as the screen is metal, it should help the function of the separator - as the mesh should serve to knock oil out of the vapor stream allowing it to drop into the separator. I use in-line metal screen fuel filters at the inlet of my catch can for the same reason. Seems to be quite effective.
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I used it with and without on my Cobra. It seemed to collect more if the filter was out. Do you think I should put a filter back in even though it catches more oil out?
 

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04sleeper said:
I used it with and without on my Cobra. It seemed to collect more if the filter was out. Do you think I should put a filter back in even though it catches more oil out?
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Its going to collect more oil cuz there is no filter to collect it. so more collects in the inline one instead since theres no filter in the intake
 

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I do not have a metal filter element in my seperator, and it is holding up fairly well to the Mobil 1 that I am burning almost as a fuel.

I have had serious issues with oil in the intake as many of you guys have, but I do not have any boost to explain this occurrence.

I guess I would like to know what solves the problem.

Rick91-
What vac pump are you running?
You have mentioned it before in other threads, but my memory is shot.
What was the total cost of the setup?
Other than the vac pump, assorted hoses, and a catch can, was anything else needed?
Are you running this on a street car, or race only? I am curious about durability, since mine is daily driven.

Maybe one day the Mustang community can find a good solution to this recurring problem.

jason
 

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What kind of crankcase ventilation do you have with that 408?
 

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vristang said:
I do not have a metal filter element in my seperator, and it is holding up fairly well to the Mobil 1 that I am burning almost as a fuel.

I have had serious issues with oil in the intake as many of you guys have, but I do not have any boost to explain this occurrence.

I guess I would like to know what solves the problem.

Rick91-
What vac pump are you running?
You have mentioned it before in other threads, but my memory is shot.
What was the total cost of the setup?
Other than the vac pump, assorted hoses, and a catch can, was anything else needed?
Are you running this on a street car, or race only? I am curious about durability, since mine is daily driven.

Maybe one day the Mustang community can find a good solution to this recurring problem.

jason
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I just set-up our Moroso vacuum pump ot too long ago.

You need a pump,brakets,drive mandrel,pullies,belt,lines (-12AN usualy),catch can w/ breather,valve cover fitting,and a regulator.

It cost bout $1000 to set-up with all the Moroso stuff,but I know my unlce made a good on out of a certain Izusu smog pump.

It worked good and was cheap,so next time I see him Ill ask about it.
 

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bluevenom867 said:
I just set-up our Moroso vacuum pump ot too long ago.

You need a pump,brakets,drive mandrel,pullies,belt,lines (-12AN usualy),catch can w/ breather,valve cover fitting,and a regulator.

It cost bout $1000 to set-up with all the Moroso stuff,but I know my unlce made a good on out of a certain Izusu smog pump.

It worked good and was cheap,so next time I see him Ill ask about it.
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That would be greatly appreciated.
By the way I did not get your name confused with Rick91, it was all Jack Daniels fault He helps me often, but I am finding he is not much help at all.

Mike-
My current setup is a seperator (from Home Depot) between the pcv and upper intake. I also have installed a 1/8" restrictor just before the seperator. I only accumulate small amounts of moisture, and just enough oil to make the water milky.
The line between the TB and VC is removed, but I will try putting this back in place soon. I removed the line because I noticed some improvement when I installed a restrictor there, but the results were still unacceptable. Since putting the restrictor in at the seperator helped so much I would like to restore the line between tb/vc, and see how it goes.

Since restrictors seem to help, I am assuming that the problem is due to an excessive volume of air flow through the pcv, which picks up large quantities of oil (similar to and air/fuel mixture as it passes the intake valve).

From what I have tried and the results I have had, Restrictors are the answer.
Hope this info can help someone.
If anyone has any suggestions for me it would be appreciated.

jason
 

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Still have a problem. The seperator is working fine, however last night on the highway, did a few 10psi pulls and started smoking badly. Got home and opened the hood, and I had oil sprayed all over my motor and hood, the breathers were soaked, time for a leak down test.
 

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mike, what are you running for a pcv valve?
 

2000xp8

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BD puts vacumm pumps on his serious setups, this would probably qualify.
 

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2000xp8 said:
BD puts vacumm pumps on his serious setups, this would probably qualify.
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Yea, i guess so. Dont wanna shovel out the money tho.
 

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Look here:


http://www.moroso.com/catalog/categorydisplay.asp?catcode=13400

The first item,Oil/Air seprator,that looks like it would work well,just run a drain to your pan.
 

2000xp8

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Mike, i ran your problem by BD the other day, just for curiosities sake, and he's thinking mostly bad things if you are soaking the towels that bad. (bad things meaning rings)

But, he did ask if you have baffles in the valve covers, and said with your setup, that could be one of the few simple fixes to the problem.
 

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2000xp8 said:
Mike, i ran your problem by BD the other day, just for curiosities sake, and he's thinking mostly bad things if you are soaking the towels that bad. (bad things meaning rings)

But, he did ask if you have baffles in the valve covers, and said with your setup, that could be one of the few simple fixes to the problem.
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I asked if he had baffles for my first question,he said yes.....
 

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bluevenom867 said:
I asked if he had baffles for my first question,he said yes.....
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well, that answers that, i scanned quickly through the posts, obviously not hard enough.
 
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