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hoopty5.0

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84Ttop said:
Love race cars yet? It gets easier the longer you do it, I promise. One thing about the crossmember/arb issue. The shocks must be plumb front to back and left to right which only leaves one spot for them to be. Moving the back may screw up the geometry of the shocks so check this carefully. As far as the arb goes you can trim the arm length equally on both sides, mount it above the floor with longer strut rods, or mount it on the rear end housing. You have a lot more options in mounting the arb than the shocks. Worse comes to it you can mount the shocks to tabs on the frame rail instead of the cross member. Also the anti roll bar tabs can be mounted on the front or back of the housing or if you mount the arb directly to the housing you can mount the tabs to the frame rail. Do look at it like rocket science, you are smarter than the metal!
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So the tabs on the ARB cross bar face the back of the car. If I flip the bar over leaving the shocks in their current position so the tabs face the front, it'll give me the 2" I need.

I'm sure it'll be much easier next go-round, lol. This is definitely trial by fire, and I definitely appreciate all the input from everyone who has done this before.
 

Sharad

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making good progress...
 

hoopty5.0

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Sharad said:
making good progress...
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Thanks man! Need to see more updates on your car!



So I cut the front end off my car again at the strut towers. Gonna take it as one piece to a shop with my tubing and replicate it there.

Also, I cut out the shock crossmember in the rear and tacked in the ARB. After narrowing the ARB 3.5" I think it's all going to play together nicely. Hopefully I can get it finished up tomorrow and I'll put up some pictures.

Im still going offshore this week sometime. REALLY need to make some more $$$, lol.
 
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MikeH686

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You can think of something to do with that old front end haha and while your offshore can you make me some money too
 

hoopty5.0

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Managed to get the rear suspension 99% done. Have a little bit more welding to do but I ran out of time. Headed to the airport soon and had to pack. I did move the axle through its full range of motion to make sure nothing hits or binds. All looks good!

Next question is should I make the 2 rear bars that run from the main hoop to the back of the car tie into the coil over cross bar? If so, I think I'll just cut out the cage altogether. I know a guy trying to get rid of a Wolfe 10 pt cage for pretty cheap.





I'll be lurking around while I'm gone. Should be a 2 week trip.
 

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tca7291

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Just have to say, looks good man!
 
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Looks good. Who's coil overs are you running? Anti roll bar is pretty beefy.
 

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Man, when we gonna see some LS action up in this beyotch?
 
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hoopty5.0 said:
Managed to get the rear suspension 99% done. Have a little bit more welding to do but I ran out of time. Headed to the airport soon and had to pack. I did move the axle through its full range of motion to make sure nothing hits or binds. All looks good!

Next question is should I make the 2 rear bars that run from the main hoop to the back of the car tie into the coil over cross bar? If so, I think I'll just cut out the cage altogether. I know a guy trying to get rid of a Wolfe 10 pt cage for pretty cheap.





I'll be lurking around while I'm gone. Should be a 2 week trip.
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The place I'd tie rear bars into would be the rear frame rails at the rear most point, w/ outriggers tied into the square ARB mount, maybe the C/O cross member for good measure. I'd think that thing ^^would flex.
 

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hoopty5.0

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84Ttop said:
Looks good. Who's coil overs are you running? Anti roll bar is pretty beefy.
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They're single adjustable qa1s. Seem like good pieces, got them lightly used

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NIKwoaC said:
Man, when we gonna see some LS action up in this beyotch?
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I'm headed offshore as I type this to gain some financial support hahah. I'm just gonna stud the rods and heads, add a mild turbo cam and slap it back together. The motor itself is in great shape.
 

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madmike1157 said:
The place I'd tie rear bars into would be the rear frame rails at the rear most point, w/ outriggers tied into the square ARB mount, maybe the C/O cross member for good measure. I'd think that thing ^^would flex.
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Ah ok, well that's where they are now. Outriggers are entirely possible too.
 

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This may have been what MadMike was saying, but yeah, I'd just drop a couple of short bars down from the rear bars down to the coilover mount. I did my 25.5 Saleen like that. Let me look for the pics...

Sorry, this is the closest one I have... but you get the idea

 

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Well we are floating around by BP's Atlantis platform about 120 miles out of Port Fourchon, LA. (That's pronounced foo-shawn, btw). We are setting out sonar beacons on the seafloor for an upcoming umbilical lay in ~6800' of water.

These platforms are huge. Easily city block sized. The scale of size and depth out here is truly mind boggling.

Anyway, hoping to be home in 10-14 days and keep the project rolling. I'll try and post a few pics I have later of the platform and ROV control room.
 
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Sounds pretty neat.
 

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hoopty5.0 said:
Well we are floating around by BP's Atlantis platform about 120 miles out of Port Fourchon, LA. (That's pronounced foo-shawn, btw). We are setting out sonar beacons on the seafloor for an upcoming umbilical lay in ~6800' of water.

These platforms are huge. Easily city block sized. The scale of size and depth out here is truly mind boggling.

Anyway, hoping to be home in 10-14 days and keep the project rolling. I'll try and post a few pics I have later of the platform and ROV control room.
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You're in my neck of the woods! Be careful out there.
 

Sharad

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hoopty5.0 said:
Well we are floating around by BP's Atlantis platform about 120 miles out of Port Fourchon, LA. (That's pronounced foo-shawn, btw). We are setting out sonar beacons on the seafloor for an upcoming umbilical lay in ~6800' of water.

These platforms are huge. Easily city block sized. The scale of size and depth out here is truly mind boggling.

Anyway, hoping to be home in 10-14 days and keep the project rolling. I'll try and post a few pics I have later of the platform and ROV control room.
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Sonar beacons? Umbilical lay? You went over my head there bro!

Stay safe out there!
 

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^ Me too. I thought he was giving birth there for a second.
 
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hoopty5.0

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So I'm at a couple of cross roads here, would like some input. There are a couple of options im considering:

Dilemma 1: MS1 or MS2.

Running MS1 is cheap, but would only control fuel. Id have to buy the MSD 6010 box to run my ignition. With MS2, I run a reluctor wheel behind the balancer and MS controls fuel and ignition. Costs are pretty much the same, for all practical purposes, its just a preference thing and I don't really have an opinion one way or another...

Dilemma 2: Single S480 or twin GT45 "China" turbos.

Before anyone craps on the China turbo idea, I've spent months reading about them and they're fine as long as you disassemble and clean them before you run them. They make good power and are reliable enough. Anyone who disagrees, my argument is "Denmah".
Anyway, I can't decide if I want a big single or smaller twins. The end result is to work the motor to the ragged edge. The BW Sxx turbos make great power as well. I'd say the cost is roughly the same for single/twins here as well.

Any input is appreciated.
 

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My opinion is that twins are cool, but a single is less work to fabricate and half as much can go wrong. I was set on doing a twin setup on my car, but decided on a single for simplicity sake. I think it really is personal preference. You can get equal performance out of both setups with the correct turbos, so it just depends on how many headaches you can deal with.
 

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RacEoHolic330 said:
My opinion is that twins are cool, but a single is less work to fabricate and half as much can go wrong. I was set on doing a twin setup on my car, but decided on a single for simplicity sake. I think it really is personal preference. You can get equal performance out of both setups with the correct turbos, so it just depends on how many headaches you can deal with.
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Yeahh... I was planning on going non-intercooled with meth, so that simplifies a lot of the fab work. But it still is a little more work than single. Tuning isnt any different, is it?
 
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