Super Stiff Rear Spring/shock Combo

General karthief · Feb 20, 2017

If the springs were an issue they would sag on one side and/or have a lot of travel, you got some meat under dat azz,
Don't over think this.
Most spring failures come from frequent overloading, or stress from bad shocks, a spring heats up when compressed or stretched, regular up and down of street driving has little heat build up mostly because of the shocks, take the shocks off and bounce the car up and down for several minutes and you could feel the heat build up, a sway bar, as ya'll know, is just a spring in a different shape, lateral instead vertical, it will have no effect on ride height or harshness,

RaggedGT · Feb 20, 2017

Also vote for sway bars/springs

Cause the factory one be tiny

Shiny New aftermarket-

stykthyn · Feb 20, 2017

That's the eibach kit isn't it?

RaggedGT · Feb 20, 2017

Yes sir- stole the pic from AM

Mustang5L5 · Feb 20, 2017

Stiffer is not always better. Still needs to match the spring/shock combo.

93 cobra actually got a thinner bar

A5literMan · Feb 21, 2017

Oh and btw offer the "wore out" springs for sale. A budget minded drag racer should be interested in them.

Mustang5L5 · Feb 21, 2017

I'd focus on a matched spring/shock combo before going with roll bars. A stiffer shock will slow down the rate of body roll and give the spring time to react and oppose the force.

General karthief · Feb 21, 2017

Mustang5L5 said:
I'd focus on a matched spring/shock combo before going with roll bars. A stiffer shock will slow down the rate of body roll and give the spring time to react and oppose the force.

Roll bars?
I'm sure you meant anti-roll bars, right?

Black1987 · Feb 21, 2017

stykthyn said:
That's the eibach kit isn't it?

Wait was that your car with the fender flares in primer?

Do you have subframe connectors or even a strut tower brace? What size sway bar do you have now?

If you do have a rag joint, is it worn?

stykthyn · Feb 21, 2017

Black1987 said:
Wait was that your car with the fender flares in primer?

Do you have subframe connectors or even a strut tower brace? What size sway bar do you have now?

If you do have a rag joint, is it worn?

God no. Wish that was my car. I have subframes. No stb. Swaybars are stock.

CarMichael Angelo · Feb 21, 2017

You definitely got something wrong, and it's damn sure not the fat tires fault.
The Monster wears 315's and has stock sway bars.

While I haven't thrown it into a curve like Super Mario, I have driven it through the whoopties that you see in the vids at 50 MPH.
I have no discernible body roll, and certainly not enough to call it anywhere near obnoxious. Course I have ditched the stock springs for a C/O setup, but they are inboard of the stock spring location. If anything,..I should be the one w/ handling problems.

Looking for broke,...worn out,.... defective..or collateral damage to the suspension and it's mount points. those would be my objectives if I had your issues.

RangerJoe · Feb 21, 2017

You could go aftermarket, stiffer Springs, then use an adjustable arm the the MM or J&M.

Joe

MFE92 · Feb 21, 2017

Most of the body roll is generated at the front of the car, but the Eibach rear swaybar makes a noticeable improvement, and pretty cheap too. The only problem is it hangs down ridiculously low at the corners.

stykthyn · Feb 21, 2017

MFE92 said:
Most of the body roll is generated at the front of the car, but the Eibach rear swaybar makes a noticeable improvement, and pretty cheap too. The only problem is it hangs down ridiculously low at the corners.

All things considered for a car that will not be raced would you suggest sticking with struts/springs or going through with the coil overs?

General karthief · Feb 21, 2017

I will stick with my bigger sway bars front and back suggestion for a street car with a footprint like yours but I like simplicity that works.
Has this thing always acted like a land yacht?

stykthyn · Feb 21, 2017

No. Prior to the 5 lug swap and the tokicos it behaved like a normal car. I'm thinking the shocks are the common denominator here.

RaggedGT · Feb 21, 2017

Not a lot of experience with coil overs, but I really like the adjustable aspect of them

stykthyn · Feb 21, 2017

RaggedGT said:
Not a lot of experience with coil overs, but I really like the adjustable aspect of them

I do too, but my only motivation to use them at this point is for the MM control arms that I have. Lately for simplicity I've just been kicking around the idea of keeping the factory arms and going with a proven set of shocks / springs such as the eibach kit.

MFE92 · Feb 21, 2017

Personally I'll never with conventional springs again. I think coilovers are worth it, but that's me. As for wallowing, strut/shock damping shouldn't control how much of it happens, just how fast it happens.

Mustang5L5 · Feb 22, 2017

stykthyn said:
No. Prior to the 5 lug swap and the tokicos it behaved like a normal car. I'm thinking the shocks are the common denominator here.

Well the springs they are paired with are stiffer than standard Fox springs. I have Tokico Blues paired with Mach 1 springs, and find the handling to be quite nice, while giving me a decent ride.

I think your issue is soft, high milage springs, combined with shocks/struts designed to work with stiffer springs, so the valving may be a little "slow". Like I said before, I'd probably go with a shock/strut that is adjustable, and run them pretty firm, or find a decent spring/shock combo that is pretty matched.

Super Stiff Rear Spring/shock Combo

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair

RaggedGT

Been here over a DECADE and still no CT

stykthyn

I want to measure mine. It doesn't look that tall.

RaggedGT

Been here over a DECADE and still no CT

Mustang5L5

That is…until I whipped out my Bissell

A5literMan

At least it is lumpy...

Mustang5L5

That is…until I whipped out my Bissell

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair

Black1987

my wife Bedazzled my input shaft

stykthyn

I want to measure mine. It doesn't look that tall.

CarMichael Angelo

my rearend will smell so minty fresh,

RangerJoe

I leave the horn on while driving

MFE92

stykthyn

I want to measure mine. It doesn't look that tall.

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair

stykthyn

I want to measure mine. It doesn't look that tall.

RaggedGT

Been here over a DECADE and still no CT

stykthyn

I want to measure mine. It doesn't look that tall.

MFE92

Mustang5L5

That is…until I whipped out my Bissell

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