Tweecer setting cam peramiters

[grbrfair]

I have just installed and got my tweecer up and running
I have turned off my EGR.
Set my MAF curve.
Set my injectors.
Set CID.
I have 2 questions
first is there anyway to install my cam specs and if so where?
second other than data loging whats my next step
one other question is anyone else having problems getting onto the tweecer tuning forum:OT:

Thanks

Greg

 

[vristang]

You are about the same place I have recently reached.

The next thing to do is start dialing in the injector settings.
What injectors are you running? (a sig is a good place for your mods)

Set the injector slopes.
vBat Offset and dial it in.
Injector Breakpoint. (I am still not sure how or what to do here, and your sn95(?) computer will be different than my X3Z.

I hope I didn't lead you in the wrong direction.

I think others will be able to help you more.

jason

 

[grbrfair]

Guess I didnot pass spelling class!!!
My sig is up and running.

The slopes are the only thing I have set so far under the scalars.
I have been doing some reading and am trying to figure where and how to set breakpoints
I see where some guys are running the cobra program, could I do this and would it help, I know I would need to run the 1993 version.
I still can't believe how much better it runs just with the few things I have done so far, I can't wait until I actually know what I am doing, alot to learn.
Tonight I am going to try and eleminate the surging its still running rich don't really know what to do but that is where the ablity to read comes in handy. I went onto Grady's site some good info. there and few downloads to check out.
Thanks for the help anymore input is appericated.

Greg

 

[blksn955.o]

From looking at your sig. you will need to look at fox stuff closer than the 94-95 (sn) stuff. The fox pcm has a "set" breakpoint from what I gather (94 guy here). You do have a few things that seem to work in that area though.

Just pointing out that Grady's site is going to give more info that is for the 94-95's. Going word for word might cause an issue due to the diff. in stratagy.

There is a ton of info on the eectuning website...but it seems some people are having an issue with the site.

As far as cam specs go the inj. table is "kinda" what you may be looking at...it seems its more of a fuel/milage and as far as power there are more important things to mess with first, like the slopes and such.

 

[WhiteDevil]

Well as for your cam specs the important place to put that into is your injector timing. You will want to adjust them to go with ur cam. I used the EEC Analyzer program to calculate when i should have them fire.

 

[grbrfair]

So the EEC anaylzer is worth the money? sounds good I am going to purchase a set of wide bands for my A/F right now I am in the dark didnot realize I could not see my A/F without them.
Your right Greg I can't get onto the eectuning site so I am kind of pulling my hair out as far as setting breakpoint or other perameters which will affect breakpoint. I think I will try a search on the Yahoo sit.

Thanks again

Greg (don't hate me because I'm a FOX HA HA!!!)

 

[final5-0]

I have just installed and got my tweecer up and running
I have turned off my EGR.
Set my MAF curve.
Set my injectors.
Set CID.
I have 2 questions
first is there anyway to install my cam specs and if so where?
second other than data loging whats my next step
one other question is anyone else having problems getting onto the tweecer tuning forum:OT:

Thanks

Greg

Hi Greg

Welcome to 94-95 :SNSign:

Be sure to remind all of us you be a Fox kinda guy for a while until we can remember on our own.

I make that same mistake from time to time with Jason

There are differences that can get you a bit hosed up when trying to apply all Fox stuff to 94-95 and vise versa

Sooooooooooooo

Just remember that when looking at all that junk on my site

Looks like Jason, John, and the other Greg are pointing you in the right direction to help you get a quick start.

The Tweecer site has been down for a while now

Yahoo site is still up however

Here is a new one that is trying to get started and you can find some info that I bet would help http://www.eec.pitbull-racing.com/forums/

64 Fairlane

Brings back many fond memories of my youth

Grady

 

[blksn955.o]

, just noticed your name

Yes EA is well worth the money. I realy dont think I have ever seen a bad thing posted about it. Great tool

I love fox's BTW, two cars I want to build before I die are 32 3window (non-highboy...thats right full fender) with either a LS1 or 4v 4.6 auto, that I hope is my next project as far as cars go....whenever that money tree starts growing. The other is a dart 331, forged, AFR/TFS headed, 76mm turbo fox with a griggs 40 (or whatever) susp. setup.

 

[grbrfair]

OK so I have learned quite a lot in a short time thanks everyone:SNSign:
Always woundered what EA stood for thanks Greg.
Grady the fairlane came from TX I just imported it to nothing quite like southern sheetmetal.
I've got the car now idling at a steady 850rpm
Next thing to tackle is the rich issue

Thanks again

Greg the Fox guy please don't forget

 

[final5-0]

Grady the fairlane came from TX I just imported it to nothing quite like southern sheetmetal.

Us Texas boys would lament in seeing you take one of our fine cars across the FIRST Northern border ..................... Oklahoma

You on the other hand ..............................

Hope you're havin a lotta fun with that oldie but goodie

Use a lug nut or something like that from a 94-95 on your Fairlane and we'll allow you to hang with us here

Grady

 

[grbrfair]

Thanks Grady

Consider it done

Greg

 

[vristang]

OK so I have learned quite a lot in a short time thanks everyone:SNSign:
Always woundered what EA stood for thanks Greg.
Grady the fairlane came from TX I just imported it to nothing quite like southern sheetmetal.
I've got the car now idling at a steady 850rpm
Next thing to tackle is the rich issue

Thanks again

Greg the Fox guy please don't forget

EA was a very good investment

Glad to hear your on the right track, and things are getting better.
I saw immediate improvements as well.

As for the richness, have you gotten into the vBat Function yet?
This made quite a difference for me.
Now that EA is not making any adjustments to the vBat, I will focus on fine tuning the Injector slopes.
After that I will go back and double check the MAF Transfer, Injector slopes, and vBat settings.

Well, that is my plan of attack. If anyone has anything to add, please do so.

These sn95 guys are pretty nice to let us hang out here

jason

 

[grbrfair]

Jason I still have to download EA going to do that tonight.
VBAT whats that?
I still need to learn alot. I tried data loging last night didnot work but I figured what I did wrong. I'll try again tonight if I get time.
Are you running wide bands for your A/F? If so what make.

Thanks for the help

Greg

 

[final5-0]

Jason I still have to download EA going to do that tonight.
VBAT whats that?
I still need to learn alot. I tried data loging last night didnot work but I figured what I did wrong. I'll try again tonight if I get time.
Are you running wide bands for your A/F? If so what make.

Thanks for the help

Greg

Hey Greg

That is the second time in this thread I've noticed you refer to a wide band in the plural sense.

I may be misunderstanding you here but, I would not want you to go out buy two wb's if you think two are needed.

Just in case you don't know ... the wb is an additional piece of tuning equipment you use and doesn't have anything to do with your two oem narrow band O2's. You only need one wb sensor.

Yes, there are some wb's that can emulate a narrow band but we won't go there with this post to keep things less clouded

If I'm misunderstanding you here Greg .....................

just tell me to go quietly away

Grady

 

[vristang]

Jason I still have to download EA going to do that tonight.
VBAT whats that?
I still need to learn alot. I tried data loging last night didnot work but I figured what I did wrong. I'll try again tonight if I get time.
Are you running wide bands for your A/F? If so what make.

Thanks for the help

Greg

Sorry, the vBat is more of a slang term.

Look for the Function Injector Offset vs Battery Voltage

The Y-axis is an adder, meaning that the Y value is added to the actual injector PulseWidth.

This table allows the computer to compensate for how the injector will behave differently when the system voltage fluctuates.

When I datalogged to make adjustments to the vBat function, I loaded the charging system as much as possible, at an idle. Turn on the A/C, radio, rear defrost, etc. Every e- load should be on.
Also, get some data in before turning on all of the accessories. This will get some data on "normal" conditions.
Basically, start with no e- load, then gradually increase to full load.

Using EA it took me about 4 iterations to get no change to the vBat settings.


jason

 

[grbrfair]

Thanks Jason. I just got my password for EA, looking forward to using it. Now for a set of wide bands. Money, money, money there's no end to the spending.

Greg

 

[blksn955.o]

SET?

Like Grady posted, you only need 1 wb o2, you dont need one for each side like the narrow (stock) o2's?

THAT would be a $$$ deal, as far as a good quality wb I plan on getting the LC1...that is if stupid crap does not stop popping up. Like the 3 weddings back to back with a bach. party before each one that is going to kill my wb fund at this time ...oh well it will be a blast at the buddies weddings.

 

[grbrfair]

I learn something everday. Guess I should have said ONE wide band. Thanks for the info Greg. Weddings definately a killer on the pocker book.