VT Stage 1's or Stage 2's

kyles03sonicgt · Dec 8, 2005

I appoligize in advance if this post has already been anwswered, I looked all over, and couldn't find one. I am really torn between the VT stage 1 cams, and the VT Stage 2 cams. I have a catted x-pipe, flowmaster cat-backs, a maf, cai, and udp. I plan on getting 4:10's', long tubes, and tb and plenum. My car is a daily driver for now, and I was wondering if the stage 2's would make it more difficult for my car to be a daily driver. On the Vt website, they say stage 2's are perfect for daily drivers. I was wondering what you guys thought? I really want the power benefits from a good set of cams and that great sound at idle that come with them. Do stage 1's have the same sound at idle as stage 2's? I also am planning on doing a dry 75 shot of nitrous. So I am planning on going with N/A cams compared to blower cams. Any advice would be greatly appreciated, along with some links to videos of cammed 2v's. I am constanstly going back and forth between the two, so any advice would be great, thanks guys - kyle.

davidz · Dec 8, 2005

from what I have read the stage 2's are fine for DD you just loose some low end although the 4.10's would help with that. I dont know how they will act with the nitrous but im pretty sure you need a tune after the stage 2 cams. You also have to change valve springs if you go stage 2

blacknblue2002 · Dec 8, 2005

I've been going through the same questions that you are right now. The guys here told me it would be best to throw the headers on while or before the stage 2 cams. Plus, the Stage 2's have a lopier idle than the 1's

hotmustang331 · Dec 8, 2005

Go to modulardepot.com and give "scott@vtengines" a PM. That should be the correct name, and ask him. I read where he said that there really isnt much difference HP wise with the stg 1s and the stg 2s when you use stock heads and he told one guy to get the 1s so it would retain all the lowerend torque below 3500RPMs. Stg 2s will not surpass the stg 1s any till after 4K, and from what I HEARD is about 10RWHP more @ peak. Up and till then they are down on both HP and torque...needless to say I went with stg 1s and have 0 regrets, car will pull to 6400 without any FEEL of dropoff and I have hit the 6500RPM limiter more than once...and with ease.
Idle isnt REAL noticable, but you can hear it...stg 2s hit pretty hard and sound awsome! But since my 66 hits VERY hard, i didnt need 2 lol...and because we didnt have to change springs.

You did watch the vid I just made right?

scalder · Dec 8, 2005

If you have the cash, might as well go with the Stage II's. I say that because of the spring swap and tune.....
I didn't notice any loss of hp/torque down low, the sound is incredible and if you're gonna add a shot, from what Jim at V/T tells me, they love the juice...both of their N/A cams do..
Honestly, probably can't go wrong either way. They're pretty close to the same #'s from what I've seen....maybe add an additional 10 rwhp or so for the II's up high.

reddrgn01gt · Dec 8, 2005

Supposedly the stg 2s work very well with nitrous. I was looking at getting stg1s until i saw what cammed autos were putting down at the wheels. Now i am going to attempt to save for a blower.

mrvax · Dec 8, 2005

I would really like to hear a sound clip of Stage 1's at idle when warm. Anyone have a link?

blacknblue2002 · Dec 8, 2005

I started a post yesterday and somebody gave me a link to an exhaust clip with stage 2's i believe. I think the post was titled something to do with 'cam sound'. Shouldn't be too hard to find...

hotmustang331 · Dec 8, 2005

VT STG 1s @ idle

kyles03sonicgt · Dec 9, 2005

THANK YOU FOR THAT LINK ON THE STAGE 1'S. I've been looking all over for one, thanks a million man. My mind is set, stage 1 VT cams are on the car this spring.

scalder · Dec 9, 2005

kyles03sonicgt said:
THANK YOU FOR THAT LINK ON THE STAGE 1'S. I've been looking all over for one, thanks a million man. My mind is set, stage 1 VT cams are on the car this spring.

Another soon to be satisfied VT Customer...!!....

KronicRacer · Dec 9, 2005

hotmustang331 said:
VT STG 1s @ idle

reporting live from :SNSign: inquiring minds want to know......... what LT/mid pipe and cb are you running?

helty · Dec 9, 2005

KronicRacer said:
reporting live from :SNSign: inquiring minds want to know......... what LT/mid pipe and cb are you running?

BBK LT's, Dr. Gas X, and i forget what cat-back.

mrvax · Dec 9, 2005

Thanks for the Stange1 link hotmustang331. It seems to have a nice lopey sound. Not radical but certainly noticable.

hotmustang331 · Dec 9, 2005

No problem guys . My exhaust setup at the time of that vid was Dr gas O/R X and magnaflow CB. I have since put on BBK LTs and the rest is the same..its gotten alot deeper but it took care of teh WOT rasp.(idle is the same)

03ghoststang · Dec 9, 2005

i cant stop looking at that video of your car it sounds awsome

hotmustang331 · Dec 9, 2005

LOL, which one was that? I have dialup and didnt watch the vid...just knew it was one where I shot the idle and maybe revved. Where is the camera, behind and revving...or did I do a walkaround?

03ghoststang · Dec 9, 2005

the one where it's just idling and you do a walk around

hotmustang331 · Dec 9, 2005

Ok, I just seen the first part. That was a day or so after the cams..no tune. It idles VERY close now, but Tim upped the idle a tad for some reason and it doesnt seem to hit as hard . Im not really sure though. Good vid..first i EVER made and was playing with fade in/outs lol.

^Thanks

03ghoststang · Dec 9, 2005

thats because my car will sound similar to that....when i install them i just need to stop being lazy and go pick up my cams the shop i ordered them from has them but i havent gone

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