Where to get a good shortblock?

ras50gt · May 10, 2020

Still have to decide if I'm going 331 or the 351w swap route. Have been looking at possible places to get a shortblock. I just want to see who you guys recommend from experience or if you wish you hadn't bought from a certain builder. Here are a few of the places. In no particular order:

1. CHP: have read several good reviews. A reliable source on Corral.net said the main builder has been going through some health issues.

2. ADperformance: again several good reviews. Saw a few negative reviews regarding communication/customer service. One issue regarding machine work, another regarding reeze plugs.

3. DDS: seems like most people went with CHP over DDS.

4. Fordstrokers. Would 100% be my first choice unfortunately they only offer Dart builds. If I decide to go Dart, they will be my pick

5. Creb Engineering: Sells on ebay. Read many good reviews. Some of their stock block ratings are questionable. I received an email from them that a 393w would cost more than a 408. Most of the time that shouldn't be the case... Right?

6. Any other suggestions?

revhead347 · May 10, 2020

Fordstrokers does stock blocks last time I checked. DSS is a hard negative. CHP has had some questionable results in the past. Never heard of the others.

Kurt

Mstng93SSP · May 10, 2020

Fordstrokers no longer does stock blocks. Hasn't for a year or more.

Chris

revhead347 · May 10, 2020

If the 408 is cheaper than the 393, why do the 393? My 2 cents.

Kurt

Monkeybutt2000 · May 10, 2020

I'm running a Creb engineering 331. I didn't get to put a whole lot of miles on it,but it ran like a dog on fire. Very happy with it so far, couldn't find one bad review on them.

revhead347 · May 10, 2020

I actually have my engines built by a machine shop in Florida that specializes in offshore powerboat racing. The guy that runs the outfit might not be able to answer my emails directly for up to a month, because he is in Finland for 30 days tuning two 2600hp boat engines to run well together. And he is pretty short on small talk when you are on the phone, which makes it tough for most customers. But damn they do good work. I was blown away the first time I walked into his machine room; it was as clean as a dentistry. He taught me the value of cleanliness. When an engine part comes off the machine, you suck up every last particle of metal to ensure it doesn't contaminate another engine. Express Engines built my last 4 engines, and I think it was worth the hassle and the wait.

Kurt

ras50gt · May 10, 2020

Monkeybutt2000 said:
I'm running a Creb engineering 331. I didn't get to put a whole lot of miles on it,but it ran like a dog on fire. Very happy with it so far, couldn't find one bad review on them.

Can you tell me more about your short block? Did the purchase go smoothly?

Monkeybutt2000 · May 11, 2020

ras50gt said:
Can you tell me more about your short block? Did the purchase go smoothly?

Absolutely. Excellent communication with them as well. You get the owners cell number if you have any issues,which I did use.

ras50gt · May 28, 2020

Anyone know if ADperformance is still in business. Their contact us got bounced back as undeliverable. I think someone may have mentioned they moved recently, maybe changed names. Guess I'm back to looking at CHP, ebay or spend big $ on a dart.

TOOLOW91 · May 28, 2020

Zack ZSR is in the 8.2 and 9.5 groups and builds some badass stuff

zsrengines.com

CarMichael Angelo · May 28, 2020

I thought groundhog day had passed.

You already have a mountain of advice on which way to go...how many times do you need to ask the same question?

revhead347 · May 28, 2020

Who was the dedicated Stangnet Engine builder we had way back in the day? This forum paid his mortgage. He was super cool. Even called me one evening to help me through emissions. He got sick or something and left a few people hanging on their engines. I think his name was Rick. There was a time when a solid portion of the members here had one of his engines.

Kurt

CarMichael Angelo · May 29, 2020

revhead347 said:
Who was the dedicated Stangnet Engine builder we had way back in the day? This forum paid his mortgage. He was super cool. Even called me one evening to help me through emissions. He got sick or something and left a few people hanging on their engines. I think his name was Rick. There was a time when a solid portion of the members here had one of his engines.

Kurt

That was him. The good Captain @FastDriver can speak to that. He was one of the customers that had to bail on the guy when he couldn’t fulfill the order.

TOOLOW91 · May 29, 2020

revhead347 said:
Who was the dedicated Stangnet Engine builder we had way back in the day? This forum paid his mortgage. He was super cool. Even called me one evening to help me through emissions. He got sick or something and left a few people hanging on their engines. I think his name was Rick. There was a time when a solid portion of the members here had one of his engines.

Kurt

Rick RNH i had spoke to him on the phone about building me an engine as well

mikestang63 · May 29, 2020

Woody stopped doing stock blocks a few years ago. Almost every one had a crack in it. He is the guy to go to though if you want a Dart short block. Be prepared to wait a few months as he is a small shop and hand builds them.

CHP - Mark sold the business a few years ago and his main engine builder has not been there for a few months and QC control went down.
DHS- way too many horror stories over the years
Blueprint- believe it or not they do build a decent motor with a warranty. Not the top shelf in parts
Ford- they sell decent short blocks with a warranty
Summit- they sell a decent bare stroker block that is already sonic checked, machined, freeze plugs and cam bearings

Your best bet on a stock short block rebuild is to find a good, local builder that you can go into their shop and speak face to face. No that any stock based stroker motor is a roll of the dice as far as longevity once you start getting over 400hp. YMMV

ras50gt · May 30, 2020

CarMichael Angelo said:
I thought groundhog day had passed.

You already have a mountain of advice on which way to go...how many times do you need to ask the same question?

Funny thing is your comment is more "ground hog day" than what I asked. Plus, I got helpful responses on top of that. If it bothers you that much, why not stay off the forums??

ras50gt · May 30, 2020

mikestang63 said:
Woody stopped doing stock blocks a few years ago. Almost every one had a crack in it. He is the guy to go to though if you want a Dart short block. Be prepared to wait a few months as he is a small shop and hand builds them.

CHP - Mark sold the business a few years ago and his main engine builder has not been there for a few months and QC control went down.

DHS- way too many horror stories over the years

Blueprint- believe it or not they do build a decent motor with a warranty. Not the top shelf in parts

Ford- they sell decent short blocks with a warranty

Summit- they sell a decent bare stroker block that is already sonic checked, machined, freeze plugs and cam bearings

Your best bet on a stock short block rebuild is to find a good, local builder that you can go into their shop and speak face to face. No that any stock based stroker motor is a roll of the dice as far as longevity once you start getting over 400hp. YMMV

Thanks for the great info! Fordstrokers seems to have the best feedback for dart blocks. Just think a stock block will work for what I want. I will have to start researching any local builders.

7991LXnSHO · May 30, 2020

I got a Marshall engine (long block) before they advertised as Blueprint engines. They knurled the valve guides and it smoked a lot. The oil pump shaft broke on the first highway run. I do not plan on buying local from them if I ever need a long or short block again.

ras50gt · May 30, 2020

TOOLOW91 said:
Rick RNH i had spoke to him on the phone about building me an engine as well

I remember Rick! Rick91gt. Rick and Woody seemed to be the go to engine guys years ago.

CarMichael Angelo · May 30, 2020

ras50gt said:
Funny thing is your comment is more "ground hog day" than what I asked. Plus, I got helpful responses on top of that. If it bothers you that much, why not stay off the forums??

Whaaaa?
If I'm not here to check you, who's to stop you from asking the same fckin question over, and over, and over........

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