My stock one sits almost dead in the middle of the stock gauge, im not sure what temperature it is. Yesterday I installed a Auto Meter Mechanical Water Temp gauge on the pillar and put the probe in the fitting on the driverside rear of the lower intake. It seems to be sitting between 160 and 180 maybe closer to 180 and am not sure if its right. I know you cant really mess up installing a mechanical gauge, but am wondering if its because of its location difference.