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1980 Coupe - Turbo AWD v8 Swap

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Olivethefet

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Really awesome build! Can't wait to see it running.
 

CarMichael Angelo

my rearend will smell so minty fresh,
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jeremythedestroyer said:
Lol i meant power steering pump. I only noticed this error yesterday.
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Well,...leave it to me to notice things,...cause......I notice things.
 

jeremythedestroyer

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CarMichael Angelo said:
Well,...leave it to me to notice things,...cause......I notice things.
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Ha, well it means you read what I wrote.
 

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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And your grammar is correct!
 

jeremythedestroyer

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Ok, I've made some progress and here is a quick update.

After a couple months of cad and test cuts I committed to cutting out the flanges I needed. In the end I botched a revision somewhere along the way of working between my desktop computer and the laptop I was running the program from but it worked out to about a MM of mismatch in the ports. A little touchup with a bearing bit on the router and ta-da, I've got a port matched upper-lower

Stay tuned for some aluminum mig welding (no spool guns here) and diy-charm fit-ups.
 
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a91what

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Nice. My kinda build happening right here.
 
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jeremythedestroyer

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You like booger weld? WE GOT EM!
 

General karthief

wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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Hey @CarMichael Angelo here's another one!
'if you build it, we will admire '
 

jeremythedestroyer

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hot-glued my intake together. Made some forms to keep the shape of the plenum correct for the sides and top (which i seem to have neglected to take a good pic of).

the plenum all tacked together. The top has a giant access panel to get to the bolts to bolt the two together.

A little more hot glue and here we go!


The "bad" news is I have to tweak my accessories layout to accommodate the flapper motor but I can live with that. Now that this is done I can drop everything out, baffle the oil pan, finish the trans tunnel and bolt it all back together for good (till something breaks?). My new kit MS3x should be waiting for me when I get home today.
 
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Sweet! have you tuned with MS before??
 

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a91what said:
Sweet! have you tuned with MS before??
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I have not, I have also never tuned before haha. My plan is get it running sans boost and then work in boost and keep AFR's happy. I need to go reread the EDIS 8 documentation they've got as well as order a wideband O2 sensor. Any recommendations on widebands?
 

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Spartan2 wideband.
There is no good way to do DBW throttle as far as I know. How do you plan to implement it?
 

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a91what said:
Spartan2 wideband.
There is no good way to do DBW throttle as far as I know. How do you plan to implement it?
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Oof, didn't realize it wasn't natively supported. I'll do some research into a DBW controller
 

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http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=52488
this is an option whatever you choose please be sure there is some kind of failsafe involved.... I would hate to see you get hurt.

I suggest trying the DBW pedal from a 7.3 or 6.0 ford they can be used to control the TB and feed the signal to the MS.
 
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a91what said:
http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=52488
this is an option whatever you choose please be sure there is some kind of failsafe involved.... I would hate to see you get hurt.

I suggest trying the DBW pedal from a 7.3 or 6.0 ford they can be used to control the TB and feed the signal to the MS.
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Looks like this is an option:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hjI74OJUH0

While I haven't tuned before I am a software developer so I know I could do this.
 
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Sweet! you would really like one of the DD-EFI dashes @stanglx2002 created I have one in my car and its awesome.

I wouldnt mind helping with the project if you need it, I hang out in the digital tuning forum and i specialize in MS systems so feel free to ask anything.
 

jeremythedestroyer

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a91what said:
Sweet! you would really like one of the DD-EFI dashes @stanglx2002 created I have one in my car and its awesome.

I wouldnt mind helping with the project if you need it, I hang out in the digital tuning forum and i specialize in MS systems so feel free to ask anything.
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Thanks! I'll have to check out the dashes, I know I want something digital
 

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yeah I have a short video of if in the car and working, for now its just a test video after the install.
View: https://youtu.be/aHOvat2sdNQ
 

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Ok small update on the DBW stuff, the MS3 does support DBW but only over canbus to a controller that interfaces with the DBW throttle body.
 

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I've got my ECU almost all together, and have started building the wiring harnesses. I soldered on the wires for both db37 plugs and then started running them to this bulkhead connector I yanked from the explorer. I've got 40 positions per plug to work with and three plugs. I'll aim to use two for ECU/sensors/fans and the third for body wiring.


a91what said:
Ok small update on the DBW stuff, the MS3 does support DBW but only over canbus to a controller that interfaces with the DBW throttle body.
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I figured as much with the lack of an IACV on the TB. I'll have to dig up what needs to be read and communicated for the controller.
 
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