we are working with aged motors/drivetrains and suspension. 87-93. compared to 99-up. the majority of foxbodys are in poor shape and need maintenance, even the ones that go to the track. kinda hard to compare averages on a car thats from a different generation when one car has 20k miles on it and the fox has 150k
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Speeds8erM-1 said:The auto 99-04 cars dont run faster on average. My friend's 03 5 Speed ran 9.3's@77 MPH, could it have done better at the time? Yea. Is it an auto which is much slower stock? No. The auto cars without gears at the SAME TRACKS in the SAME weather HERE dont run faster.
I need to find the timeslip of the 9.4 pass I ran in that 01 GT automatic, pulleys, filter, exhuast, I ran the fastest time of the night in it too.
You seem to be down on foxes pretty bad, you must be one of those people that thinks you gotta have something newer or people wont like you.
Come on now, speeds...get a bit more personal
Your losing it...but no need to get personal. This is all in fun...matt93notch said:
hmm...your exaggerating a bit...everyone of the 99+'s I know have atleast 50k on them. My friend Matt's with the prochamber,dumped flows with chrome 9in. rims...has 98k as of yesterday
I know of three 5.0L's with under 100k in our little group...That worn out suspension can also be good for off the line...squatty
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5spd GT said:Again, compare them to a similar weighted 94/95 5.0L. Then we will do bolt-on for bolt-on. I know our 98 gt isn't going to loose at full weight
You keep trying to spin off your stories and strecth them to get your desired length, kind of like a fishing story of the coast of Florida
You really must have bad weather when these guys race or bad drivers, I assume the later...because those cars aren't pulling those slower of mph's down here.
FWIW again.
The 98 gt got a bump in power over the 96-97's. When I had my 94 bone stock (I pulled the air silencer on mine) and a diff. buddy than the 00gt and 87gt had a 98gt. We ran = to one another. The winner was the one who didnt mess up otherwise it was DEAD even and that DEAD even happend ALOT. We got our mods done in the same order at almost the same time. With every mod the one who had the mod first won. But when mods were equal we were back to running the same times again.
the 98 ran a 14.2 with pulles, 3.73's, catback, shifter, CAI.
My 94 ran a 14.3 with pullies, 3.73's, catback, shifter, K&N. At the same time and reaction time was alittle diff. and I beat him by a fender on these times.
MHO, its a hobby...dont loose sight and stop having fun. enjoying people who have the same hobby and likes as you is hard enough to find.
blksn955.o said:
Looks good to me...
Now, we did a "test". Bone stock 95 5.0L 5spd with 3:08's (83k), and bone stock 98 Gt (87k). Ran from a 5mph roll to show low "take-off" capability and to take out driver error on take-off. The better driver was in the 5.0L, it was Matt who runs so well in the 00 Gt (friend). John was in the 98 gt (first actual mustang to own)...but races dirt track. 98 gt pulled a bit over 1 car to 70mph...car was approaching from a far (didn't want ticket if it was a cop).
The 98 now has catback, prochamber, clutch, shifter, filter. There is a 97 gt with midpipe, headers, mufflers, clutch that runs a 1mph faster than the 98 gt. His name is jimmy...goofy guy though...hehe.
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i would never buy the 4.6 unless it came in one figuration....DOHC.....ok maybe there is a secong.......includes this little guy named EATON!!
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While I dont agree with that, I like the 4.6 cars also, well, not n/a only but with boost they are pretty nice. 2v or 4v. I would like to get a 99-04 GT and see what I could do with only boltons and then swap to a power adder but I will probably just get another fox body sooner than later.
irvgotti said:
Okay, your not fit for this type of debate. Let me break it down for you...let speeds handle this
For one, it isn't all about beating someone in a straight line. Ford did not go into production saying in 1999 that our goal is to beat a light weight 5.0L notch...
Second, do you know how much more detailed the sohc is over the pushrod, not just the actual engine, but the setup. So does good engine to you mean...'goes fast'...
Third, why do you think there is so many mods for the fox platform (79-93)? It is because they have been around so long, these 4.6L in the mustangs haven't been around as much. You can buy the same things for these cars already as the 5.0L's have...sorry, but it is true. They are more on the expensive side, but prices are dropping as demand and cars increase...that is the way supply and demand work. Very simple...
Fourth, wow I wish I had a sohc in my hands...I'll get one that will take you on no problem...let me guess, when you beat the drivers, you think the car is crap, no matter what it maybe. Here is a tip, go out and drive them, get in a scene where the guys know what they are doing and how to drive...good luck!
What do you mean at a 20mph roll it won't downshift the way it should? LOL!
Do you not think the 15.4's are from bad drivers...your hilarious...now get out
Power is not everything
Power is not everything. Their is a guy here that has a factory 5 Mk3 Roadster, with a 93 Mustang Cobra 302 and 8lbs blower. At just over 2000lbs he spanks 90% of all who race him. Ford should make a lighter 4.6 it could kill the viper. The gt500 is over rated. A modern Cobra Roadster would make a "MUCH" beater car all around.
Power is not everything. Their is a guy here that has a factory 5 Mk3 Roadster, with a 93 Mustang Cobra 302 and 8lbs blower. At just over 2000lbs he spanks 90% of all who race him. Ford should make a lighter 4.6 it could kill the viper. The gt500 is over rated. A modern Cobra Roadster would make a "MUCH" beater car all around.
matt93notch said:all i know is i would be pissed if i owned a 03 gt with bolts on, when a 93 5.0 with bolt ons runs almost identical times and side by side in races!!!!
Why??
I own an AOD 5.0 with bolt on's that's faster than my stock '03 GT which ran a 14.1.
Doesn't bother me at all
I've beaten plenty of 4.6's in my 5.0 and beaten plenty of 5.0's while driving in my 4.6. This thread is pointless. Nobody is going to win you guys might as well be arguing over imports vs domestics. It will just escalate to the point of no return and get locked until the next 5.0 vs 4.6 thread pops up. Wait another year or two and the 3V guys will be jumping all over everyone as well.
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