Build Thread '83 T-top Coupe - Welding Holes in My Rear

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Sooooo, while waiting to do something I've been trying to price out the details of my engine.

I think I have it figured out now, for every $5K I spend on this car I will see the actual value go up by $250.:eek:

Oh well, it won't be for sale anyhow.

It's really hard for me not to buy stuff that will keep me from tipping over the edge of driveability. I want to be able to drive this car on a nice two week vacation out to the east coast when it's done and stop by to see as many of you guys as I can.

Engines can be expensive! Who knew?:ack:
 
Sooooo, while waiting to do something I've been trying to price out the details of my engine.

I think I have it figured out now, for every $5K I spend on this car I will see the actual value go up by $250.:eek:

Oh well, it won't be for sale anyhow.

It's really hard for me not to buy stuff that will keep me from tipping over the edge of driveability. I want to be able to drive this car on a nice two week vacation out to the east coast when it's done and stop by to see as many of you guys as I can.

Engines can be expensive! Who knew?:ack:
Let's talk serious here Dave..Call me the Ghost of Christmas Past...Speaking from practical experience..
* And this is only because you intend to drive the car like I intend to drive it......Over a distance greater than 100 Miles one way.
If you continue on the path that you're on, ( and keep the PD blower). a PD blower becomes a pain in the ass when you start trying to spin the piss out of it with a pulley change, which is a requisite of adding boost. The fact that it's tied directly to the crank means that even cruising down the road w/o putting your foot in it, it's still spinning its balls off.
You know more than me about the required pulley upgrade to get that blower to make your goal power based on what you've already read I'm sure...the good thing is you can have a "street hero" pulley combo, and a " visit Mike" pulley combo in your trunk that only takes a hour or so and a different belt to change out when you get ready for the road trip.
Big boost equals detonation. Detonation forces you to reduce the boost, or take measures to accommodate it. ( like water meth injection). Now that I've experienced it, it's the perfect solution...it's cheap, easy to find, and absolutely fixes the problem it's intended to fix.

AC. You gotta have it.
The problem is that that engine compartment is a cluttered mess when all of the factory hoses have to be accommodated. The firewall bulkhead where the hoses hub, adds to the problem, with the big, stupid AC receiver/drier adding to the clutter. That bulkhead was the reason I ditched the factory junk, and used an aftermarket AC system.

Protect your dental work.
I'd be willing to wager that for every car that gets a set of Bilsteins, Koni's, Strange, or QA-1 struts, shocks, and the requisite stiffer lowering springs....there's an owner with that combo visiting a dentist to get the fillings that just got rattled out of his head, re-done.

Let me reiterate...

A stiff "handling suspension" is the biggest contributor to dissatisfaction with your car. Having to tolerate the bone jarring chatter that comes when that car goes over a stretch of bad washboard is a come to Jesus Experience for a lot of guys here...and leaves only but the twenty somethings wishing they hadn't went so extreme with a suspension choice on a car that never sees a minute of track time going around a corner. The Monster has the equivalent of a stiff ride, just north of what the car had when it was stock. It has stock front struts, w/a c/o conversion and Strange c/o's on back set to the softest setting...point is,....I have a very modest ride quality.
But.......
The stretch of road we take BMW customers has sections of sucky road..( dips, potholes, and washboard) ..the cars I drive over it make that stretch very unpleasant to ride over...the one time I took the Monster over the same stretch......is the last time.

All this to say that I think if I was building a small engine combo in a fox mustang.....
  • I'd use a turbo. It only make boost when your foots in it, and it's all adjustable with a laptop.
  • I'd ditch the factory snake nest that is the AC/Heater hose menagerie in favor of aftermarket.
  • I'd stiffen the piss out of the chassis, but go only moderate on the suspension.
Of course this is only my opinion,...you're gonna do what you're gonna do,..."but for those who have boldly gone where no man has gone before"
 
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Let's talk serious here Dave..Call me the Ghost of Christmas Past...Speaking from practical experience..
* And this is only because you intend to drive the car like I intend to drive it......Over a distance greater than 100 Miles one way.
If you continue on the path that you're on, ( and keep the PD blower). a PD blower becomes a pain in the ass when you start trying to spin the piss out of it with a pulley change, which is a requisite of adding boost. The fact that it's tied directly to the crank means that even cruising down the road w/o putting your foot in it, it's still spinning its balls off.
You know more than me about the required pulley upgrade to get that blower to make your goal power based on what you've already read I'm sure...the good thing is you can have a "street hero" pulley combo, and a " visit Mike" pulley combo in your trunk that only takes a hour or so and a different belt to change out when you get ready for the road trip.
Big boost equals detonation. Detonation forces you to reduce the boost, or take measures to accommodate it. ( like water meth injection). Now that I've experienced it, it's the perfect solution...it's cheap, easy to find, and absolutely fixes the problem it's intended to fix.

AC. You gotta have it.
The problem is that that engine compartment is a cluttered mess when all of the factory hoses have to be accommodated. The firewall bulkhead where the hoses hub, adds to the problem, with the big, stupid AC receiver/drier adding to the clutter. That bulkhead was the reason I ditched the factory junk, and used an aftermarket AC system.

Protect your dental work.
I'd be willing to wager that for every car that gets a set of Bilsteins, Koni's, Strange, or QA-1 struts, shocks, and the requisite stiffer lowering springs....there's an owner with that combo visiting a dentist to get the fillings that just got rattled out of his head, re-done.

Let me reiterate...

A stiff "handling suspension" is the biggest contributor to dissatisfaction with your car. Having to tolerate the bone jarring chatter that comes when that car goes over a stretch of bad washboard is a come to Jesus Experience for a lot of guys here...and leaves only but the twenty somethings wishing they hadn't went so extreme with a suspension choice on a car that never sees a minute of track time going around a corner. The Monster has the equivalent of a stiff ride, just north of what the car had when it was stock. It has stock front struts, w/a c/o conversion and Strange c/o's on back set to the softest setting...point is,....I have a very modest ride quality.
But.......
The stretch of road we take BMW customers has sections of sucky road..( dips, potholes, and washboard) ..the cars I drive over it make that stretch very unpleasant to ride over...the one time I took the Monster over the same stretch......is the last time.

All this to say that I think if I was building a small engine combo in a fox mustang.....
  • I'd use a turbo. It only make boost when your foots in it, and it's all adjustable with a laptop.
  • I'd ditch the factory snake nest that is the AC/Heater hose menagerie in favor of aftermarket.
  • I'd stiffen the piss out of the chassis, but go only moderate on the suspension.
Of course this is only my opinion,...you're gonna do what you're gonna do,..."but for those who have boldly gone where no man has gone before"
I've seriously thought about how to make the a/c work without looking like a mess under the hood. I'm still thinking on that one and probably won't make any decisions in regards to it till I'm assembly the engine.

I agree with you on a pulley swap for different types of driving. I want to be sure to build the bottom end to handle anything the little M90 can throw at it (which, by the way, can be over 20psi). But the pulley sets I get will be a mild set (15% ) and then a wilder side one that's close to 30%. I will want to dyno it and probably run a couple dozen times at the strip, I want to hit low twelves and I think with what I have planned, that won't be real difficult.

There will be no piss left in the tightening of the chassis. Shy of a rollcage, of course. No rollcage for Scuby. It will be similar to the Monster with the ladder braces and all. Maybe one or two things that aren't really called for that I think will be cool from Wild Rides. I want coilovers on all corners though. Stifflers and Maximum Motorsports will be my friends during the chassis stage.

I'm not sure when I'll get to the chassis though. Once I get the engine built and have the new TKO500 I intend to be back on the body. I got to dig up my 8.8 too. I'm thinking of gearing it kind of low, 3.27's maybe? My supercharger is a freaking torque monster so all I really need to consider is how comfortable it'll be cruising at 70.

I might go ahead and install the sfc's right after I put the new floor pan in. I'm not over sure of what order I'll do that in.

Fact is, I would probably want to do all the chassis stuff as soon as the new floor is in, wouldn't I? At least the welding pieces.

I guess the tune of the suspension really won't be much more than the specs of the springs and maybe a bit on the shocks. No delrin bushings, no heim joints.

Turbo! Shut your mouth! Truthfully that's the way to go to get the most out of this engine. I've been reading about some guys that get close to 850hp with a turbo on this engine. I don't want that. I want to stay quasi-true to the sc concept. I'll live with the bit*hin' amount of torque it'll have. I'll probably smile a lot about it too.
 
This just happened last night before I went to bed, I’m still debating removing all of her teeth at the moment. Those little emblems are tough to find.

It's the great god of mods telling you something Dave...




He wasn't feeling your little fingernail polish painted horn button...so he got in the dog's head, and commanded him to do it.

Don't blame the dog.....

Blame Mod God.
 
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