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zenboy99

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After a failed TKO install, close to 172,000 miles and over 80 passes on my stock T5, I should really start thinking about a new transmission.

I like the G-Force since theoretically it should just drop right in right? Its a T5 casing. I know I posted this last year, but I tried a search and didn't find too much. With all thats involved in a TKO swap I'm surprised a G-force isn't more popular. They can be had new for ~$1550 with a core exchange.

Just wanted to know if anyone on here has done this.
 
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Its because there service sucks.....Someone here i think it was had there's installed for like 10 miles and the mainshaft snapped clean in half. Obviously a manufacturing defect and they told him to go ***** himself.
 

mytight95

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i don't think that was anyone from this forum.........

I think the guys name on our local board was SHANKIN........

I have driven a car with one of these trannys now...... I liked it.....almost no difference between the stock driveability wise....

When my tranny goes, i plan to get one of those trannys, if i have the cash at the time....


jason
 

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I've heard from racers that these tranny's are as smooth as butter once you put them in. But installing one....
 

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What went wrong with the TKO?
 

nmcgrawj

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mikeflys1 said:
Its because there service sucks.....Someone here i think it was had there's installed for like 10 miles and the mainshaft snapped clean in half. Obviously a manufacturing defect and they told him to go ***** himself.
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obviously there has gotta be more to that story.


zenboy99 said:
I've heard from racers that these tranny's are as smooth as butte once you put them in. But installing one....
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What would be so hard about the install? A tko would be a "harder" install if anything but they should be the same.

I am in need of a tranny and i am contemplating which way to go.
 

zenboy99

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Thats my question, why is this swap so hard? why aren't we all doing it if we can get a 600hp tranny? I know the case of a T5 isn't that strong, but hey, Tim Matherly is using G-Force T5 and running 9's?

The TKO swap was a nightmare, too many parts that weren't fitting and a horrible vibration once it was put in.

My Dad and all his Ford guys were asking, if a 5L mustang is one of the most modified cars in North America, why isn't there an easy swap for the 94-95's?
 

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zenboy99 said:
Thats my question, why is this swap so hard? why aren't we all doing it if we can get a 600hp tranny? I know the case of a T5 isn't that strong, but hey, Tim Matherly is using G-Force T5 and running 9's?

The TKO swap was a nightmare, too many parts that weren't fitting and a horrible vibration once it was put in.

My Dad and all his Ford guys were asking, if a 5L mustang is one of the most modified cars in North America, why isn't there an easy swap for the 94-95's?
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I dont know why there arent more...its a direct fit. How long have they been around? Maybe since they are relatively new compared to tremecs that they arent tried and trusted yet. One of the guys whos a dealer on the corral said that they sale both g forces and tremecs and they have more problems with the tremec case then the case with the gforce.

94-95's sometime equal that small segment that gets over looked....regardless of having the most popular motor to mod.
 

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Good point. IMO one bad story isnt enough for me to steer clear of a company. A few issues ago in MMFF or 5.0 they did an install with a G force and had no problems. I would go that route if it were me and I had the funds.
 

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My friends that have the G-Force rebuild have been OK with their case, powershifting, etc.

After trying to do a TKO swap, I have absolutely no clue why anyone wouldn't do a G-force swap for a 94-95.
 

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How much is the core credit?
 

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Core is ~$200

Tranny is ~$1550 with the core
 

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zenboy99 said:
Core is ~$200

Tranny is ~$1550 with the core
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Ive seen them through astro for $1595 w/ core, where did you find the $1550 price??
 
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Well this is now about 2years ago I would certainly hope G-force has gotten better but their service does/did suck! Thats why I didn't get one I ordered the kit they say "2-4 weeks" 4 weeks comes and goes nothing I call " how's my order going ?" them "UHM well the guy who handles the T5 kit isn't in call back tommorrow" I say ok I talk to the guy the next day they are waiting on the small parts kit, I say ok how long? he says 1 week and it'll be shipped needless to say 2weeks go by and nothing. I call again and get the same thing,same answers,same time frame! another 2 weeks go by and nothing! I am pissed now I call for a week cant get a hold of the guy I have had enough that and I got laid off so I cancelled my order. Hopefully their service has gotten better!
 

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gmkillr said:
Ive seen them through astro for $1595 w/ core, where did you find the $1550 price??
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I don't remember, I tried looking for that price last night. Someone gave me a website last year for a company that was a G-force dealer, I can't find that thread now.

Edit: here is one of the websites I got, but its unavailable for some reason.
http://www.cetransmissions.com/
 

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I too am pondering a G force tranny. Right now Astro Performance looks tempting and might get some business from me. I know C J Pony parts is a G force distributer and they are within driving distance. They don't have much G force info on their site however. I still have to research CJ to see what they have to offer.
 

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slytherin said:
Well this is now about 2years ago I would certainly hope G-force has gotten better but their service does/did suck! Thats why I didn't get one I ordered the kit they say "2-4 weeks" 4 weeks comes and goes nothing I call " how's my order going ?" them "UHM well the guy who handles the T5 kit isn't in call back tommorrow" I say ok I talk to the guy the next day they are waiting on the small parts kit, I say ok how long? he says 1 week and it'll be shipped needless to say 2weeks go by and nothing. I call again and get the same thing,same answers,same time frame! another 2 weeks go by and nothing! I am pissed now I call for a week cant get a hold of the guy I have had enough that and I got laid off so I cancelled my order. Hopefully their service has gotten better!
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I would dare to say that in that experience you weren't dealing with Tony from Astro Performance....... He installs the kits...etc... he is a very nice guy i have talked to him on the phone a couple of times...... For a while i believe they weren't offering a direct swap for the 94-5 models... i think you had to run the DS spacer, shorter bellhousing etc., now i know they are offering one for 94-95 specific with the longer imput shaft etc. to make up the difference......

Only thing i really noticed with the install of the g-force..... as i helped install the one that i wound up driving later......after it was broken in... Is that it was heavier....lol especially laying on your back, and pressing it into the car....




jason
 
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No I was dealing with G-force directly.
 
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so any local tranny rebuilder should be able to install the gforce kit? seems like thats the best thing to do price wise
 

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i don't think i would say that...... I think that it actually goes together a little differently clearance wise, and what you want you preload on the counter shaft etc. to be.... b/c of the thicker gears etc...



jason
 
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