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hoopty5.0

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Noobz347 said:
Do these things have a habit of dropping dead on their own accord?
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Not that I've seen.

Apparently, there are internal fuses that will reset if tripped so either they arent resetting or the computer is just kaput. Ill still send it off
 
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Well, some of you have followed my socials and saw that it hasn't been going well. Here's what I know:
- I have 12v at pins 1 and 37 on the ECM harness at the plug.
- swapped ECM relay, no change
- swapped the WOT relay and the fuel pump relay and no change
- swapped in a known good MS and no change
- The MS units will not power up and communicate with Tunerstudio

my gut is telling me bad grounds, but I'm not sure where to check for grounds on the main engine harness. I have the ol' TMoss diagram but it doesn't say where the grounds are located. I want to trace the black/white wires in the harness down because I cant think of any other things causing the issues.
Edit* I found some helpful info from @jrichker - thanks for the help buddy. Going to move some stuff around and see where that gest me.

Just a refresher, I took the car out a while back, the battery cable was loose (forgot to tighten) and it arced and the car went dark. Tightened cable and have no power to computer it seemed. Been chasing my tail since.

I feel like this is an incredibly simple solution, I just can't track it down and it's driving me nuts!

 
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Update - I was able to jump the plug on the fuel pump relay from the red to light blue and the fuel pump kicked on.

Next, I'm going to try adding jumpers to the grounds and grounding the computer inside the car and see what that does.
 

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hoopty5.0 said:
Update - I was able to jump the plug on the fuel pump relay from the red to light blue and the fuel pump kicked on.

Next, I'm going to try adding jumpers to the grounds and grounding the computer inside the car and see what that does.
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Is there any chance the arcing might have blown a fusible link?

Bill
 

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Willybill32 said:
Is there any chance the arcing might have blown a fusible link?

Bill
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Ive been jacking around with it all morning - I finally unplugged the salt/pepper shakers and turned the key and it all powered up and the fuel pump came on. So, something in the engine harness is grounding out. Ill work on tracing that out next.
 
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Alrighty.

What an absolute beating. The evap plug near the TPS was pinched between the FPR and the throttle cable bracket. It eventually ate through the insulation and was grounding the whole thing out. Never, ever would have guessed that, but its something I caused - nothing new there!

The bad news is the car runs like absolute hammered ass. Seems like I have a couple dead cylinders. Im going to put it all back together, let it cool off and then put some fresh plugs in it and see if that cures anything. I'm just happy it was a simple fix and didnt cost me anything other than a few less hairs on my head.
 
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It was running rough because I didnt have the MAP line plugged in. All is right in the world again, I can focus on the Bronco.

The owner 3 people ago didnt sign the title right so I have to go through the bonded title process. Not looking forward to that - at all.
The motor has a bad wrist pin or a broken piston skirt. Other than that and a bad oil leak, it runs good.
 
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Sounds like an impending oil pan failure to me
 
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General karthief said:
Sounds like an impending oil pan failure to me
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Im keeping an eye out for a good used 351
 

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I was hoping to make it to Lone Star Fox fest this weekend, but it didnt quite pan out. Got a sick kiddo.

 
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hoopty5.0 said:
Im keeping an eye out for a good used 351
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Bet that Bronco has one!!
 

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Glad you got to the bottom of the wiring issues, I bet that was a PITA.
 
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General karthief said:
Bet that Bronco has one!!
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Thats what I need the 351 for! This one is toast.
 

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bird_dog0347 said:
Glad you got to the bottom of the wiring issues, I bet that was a PITA.
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So so so frustrating.

Next up is a dual pass radiator. Curious to see if it makes any difference.
 
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The car's 3" cat back is a snug fit and sometimes I have to crawl under and adjust things when a tailpipe starts rattling on a frame rail. I did this yesterday and the rattle was still there. Imagine my surprise when it was coming from under the hood!
So, I have a suspicion the motor mount has melted and has relaxed enough to allow the turbo to rest on the front frame rail. Only other thing it could be is the crossover is cracking, but there would be a hellacious exhaust leak and there just isnt.

I cant work on it because the bronco is in lieutenant Dan mode waiting on new shoes at the moment. Also getting a set of leveling springs and some brake work. Got a CEL the other day on the way home from Oklahoma so I need to chase that down too.
On a lighter note, the bronco got almost 16 mpg on that trip, running 70-75 with a nasty air filter and a bad knock in the engine (goes away when warm) and a flat ass tire because of an old plug that decided to give out half way there.

 
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Oh, how I love FB memories.



I dont have much to share otherwise. I've been going whole hog on my wood operation trying to have some money to play with at the end of the year. Lots of stroker W motors up for sale right now, hell of a time to be broke!
 
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I ran across this 351 Victor EFI lower the other day. No upper. What would you pay for something like this, assuming you were in the market for one?
 
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I’m thinking 200$ is the right price.
 
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I am in-fact [not] looking for one but I would still pay more than the value of the potato camera that the image above was taken with.
 

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Noobz347 said:
I am in-fact [not] looking for one but I would still pay more than the value of the potato camera that the image above was taken with.
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Well the ad expired and the thumbnail was all I can manage. It's on Fleabay for $550 and I decided I dont need it that bad.


I DID buy a set of 750cc injectors today and will have a few more things to buy when the right black Friday sales happen. Finally getting my fuel system up to snuff so this will run to its full potential!
 
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