• Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-

Let’s Talk Air Compressors/set Ups.

  • Thread starter Thread starter billison
  • Start date Start date Oct 2, 2017
  • 1
  • 2
Next
1 of 2 Next Last

billison

I like tinted tail
15 Year Member
Feb 27, 2006
2,607
1,094
184
stl
Oct 2, 2017
#1
  • Oct 2, 2017
  • #1
with all the body work and paint I’m doimg I’m finding myself looking at my air compressor and wanting more. Just curious what kinda set ups you guys got. Including filters and water traps.

My current set up is pretty simple, 4hp 20 gallon with a small dissident filter before a oil/Water separator with a regulator with a disposable filter before and after the hose. All 1/4 hose.

I’m looking to either get a larger compressor or add a second one. Then start swapping the hoses to 3/8 probably with high flow fittings. For filters I’d like to do the motor guard m30 filter ( toilet paper filter) with a little bit nicer Water/oil separator before the hose and keep the one disposable before the gun/tool.

What do you guys use/suggest for the budget minded?
 

Chuckman

GTFO you fat, heavy bastard
15 Year Member
Oct 21, 2005
1,604
1,002
173
st. louis, mo
Oct 2, 2017
#2
  • Oct 2, 2017
  • #2
I've got a husky 60 gallon in the basement with 1/2" copper hardline to the garage with a (too small) dessicant dryer. I need to rig up a better cooler/dryer for it, but capacity seem to be fine for everything, but my cheapo da pushes it.
 
Reactions: revhead347

FoxMustangLvr

I love my Pimp
SN Certified Technician
Oct 14, 2012
4,968
3,514
204
Spokane, Wa
Oct 2, 2017
#3
  • Oct 2, 2017
  • #3
Good function and quality is not that cheap. I purchased a Husky 60 gln 4hp single stage 240v electric compressor. Works awesome. There is one other guy on here that bought the same exact compressor as I did, I think it's @Chuckman . I can run a grinder or cut off wheel all I want with my compressor. I ran black iron pipe with a lot of rise/drops which allows the water to settle at the bottom of the risers with a ball valve to drain to water. After nearly 50' of pipe I have a final trap with a regulator. I have zero moisture in my paint gun or any other air tools. A desiccant filter is highly recommended too which I plan on adding in the future.

 

FoxMustangLvr

I love my Pimp
SN Certified Technician
Oct 14, 2012
4,968
3,514
204
Spokane, Wa
Oct 2, 2017
#4
  • Oct 2, 2017
  • #4
 
Reactions: Shakerhood and Mustang5L5
S

stpete

Well-Known Member
Dec 26, 2015
320
151
63
Oct 2, 2017
#5
  • Oct 2, 2017
  • #5
I run an inexpensive 60 gal compressor. I have it hard piped to my basement workshop also, where I spray water based woodworking finishes. The downsides: FIxed location. 220V. It's not quite powerful enough for things like sandblasters and heavy usage of metal grinding tools. Even with impact guns, you have to wait for it to refill sometimes. It's loud.
For spraying HVLP, it works great. I have a simple filter/regulator setup with an inline filter and regulator at the gun. I built drains into my system and definitely drain everything prior to shooting. I have a hose that I only use for the sprayer to ensure it doesn't get any tool oil or water in it. All my hoses are larger than 1/4", my hard pipes are 3/4". To keep noise down, the compressor sits on a wooden base that sits on the pads used for HVAC units. There is a hose I had custom made by a hydraulic shop that connects the hard pipes to the compressor to keep the vibrations out of the pipes. That helped quiet it down, but it's still loud.
Overall, I think this is the cheapest way for me to get close to the kind of CFM I wanted. I used one of those new house 10% off anything from the big box hardware stores to buy the compressor. I've had it about 10 years and have had some issues with the cheapness of the compressor, but it was all fixable. All the problems so far were fairly straight forward and inexpensive, but still screws up your weekend.
I think any other compressor I bought that has equal or more flow capacity would more than double the cost. I think the cheap 60 gal are the CFM/$ winners. My compressor is a CH brand similar to the Husky above. It's what Lowes used to sell before they changed the brand names they sell. Whatever brand name they changed to (Kobalt? I think) is the exact same compressor with a different name on it.
 
Last edited: Oct 2, 2017

Hoytster

I don't dare do that to my Knob
20+ Year Stangneter
Dec 30, 2002
1,069
700
164
Cornwall, PA
Oct 2, 2017
#6
  • Oct 2, 2017
  • #6
I just ordered this air compressor to replace my aging 3 HP, 20 gallon oil-less compressor. Seemed to be the best value I could find for the tank size, CFM rating, and warranty, plus the reviews have been overly positive.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200641297_200641297




I plumbed everything in my garage with the RapidAir tubing kit. I bought two additional outlet manifolds so I have a total of 4 outlets around my garage.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200484023_200484023


Near the compressor, I have the Devilbiss DAD-500 filter and dryer system to keep the air clean and dry. I've heard the Devilbiss CAMAIR CT30 individual dryer works well too, and is cheaper. Each outlet also has a water trap with a drain. I haven't had any moisture problems yet with my old compressor and I haven't got my new compressor yet so I can't comment whether that will be any different or not.
 
Last edited: Oct 2, 2017
Reactions: revhead347

billison

I like tinted tail
15 Year Member
Feb 27, 2006
2,607
1,094
184
stl
Oct 3, 2017
#7
  • Oct 3, 2017
  • #7
You guys feel like the 60 gallon is more than enough for home use?
 

FoxMustangLvr

I love my Pimp
SN Certified Technician
Oct 14, 2012
4,968
3,514
204
Spokane, Wa
Oct 3, 2017
#8
  • Oct 3, 2017
  • #8
billison said:
You guys feel like the 60 gallon is more than enough for home use?
Click to expand...
Depends on what use you have for it. I will paint the occasional car, metal work, etc. I wanted mine to run a DA sander, cut off wheel, grinder, and HVLP paint gun. Mine puts out nearly 14 cfm @ 40psi which is plenty for my DevilBiss paint gun and runs my air tools easy peezy.
 
Reactions: Hoytster
S

stpete

Well-Known Member
Dec 26, 2015
320
151
63
Oct 3, 2017
#9
  • Oct 3, 2017
  • #9
billison said:
You guys feel like the 60 gallon is more than enough for home use?
Click to expand...

My 60 gal is more than enough for most things. If you run a sandblaster it's not. Lots of breaks while blasting, but it's something I rarely do. Occasionally if you're really hammering away with the impact it'll need to wait for a refill as well. Same with grinders/cutoff tools and such. Even so, it is way better than smaller compressors in all those cases and it never starves for air when I spray HVLP. But, there is a tradeoff in that when you do hit the wall it takes longer to refill.
More capacity is expensive though. I think the $500ish 60 gal compressors are the right size for a serious hobby homeowner. The exception would be if you spend a lot of full days running grinders and don't want to have to pause every so often. Or, if you want to regularly use sandblasters. I have rarely been concerned about the 40psi flow. Most of the single piston/single stage inexpensive 60 gal compressors are around 11 cfm at 90psi. I think to get any noticeable improvement on that you have to spend quite a bit more money. There are days when I would like more capacity, but they are few. I think at this point I would replace the one I have with the same kind of thing if it crapped out. A few years ago I might've sprung for a two stage (when I was blasting some parts).
 

Bullitt347

I have been doing it wrong this whole time
15 Year Member
Mar 23, 2007
3,974
2,955
194
Middle of Maine
Oct 3, 2017
#10
  • Oct 3, 2017
  • #10
I recently picked up both a 80 gal 5 hp Kellog-American and a 80 gal 5 hp Curtis compressors for $600. They were made in 1989 and have been in the shop I am at since new. Both still work great. Shop was upgrading to twin 7.5 HP Champion 80 gal compressors and let these go for a song. I sold one to my buddy for $300 so now we both are going to be set when it comes to shop air. Just have to install it.
 

Chuckman

GTFO you fat, heavy bastard
15 Year Member
Oct 21, 2005
1,604
1,002
173
st. louis, mo
Oct 3, 2017
#11
  • Oct 3, 2017
  • #11
billison said:
You guys feel like the 60 gallon is more than enough for home use?
Click to expand...
The da is a hog and makes it run a bit too constantly if you're using it for long periods of time, but haven't had a capacity problem with my grinders, cutoff, cheapo hvlps etc. I did 4 coats of surface primer on the fox shell over the weekend and it worked like a champ (my skills however still suck).
 
V

Vettn71

Advanced Member
Jan 3, 2014
273
154
74
Oct 3, 2017
#12
  • Oct 3, 2017
  • #12
I have a HF 60 gal/two-stage 5hp compressor. I use a flex line to 1/2" copper pipe that runs into my attic, crosses the garage, comes out of the ceiling, then angles down about 30' at a slight angle. I have two drops, one with my two-stage filter/dryer and the other just goes to a ball valve. I have ball valve at each drop, coming out of the compressor and one at a drop below the compressor outlet.. The copper pipe gives the air a chance to cool, condensing the moisture out of it. Since the copper pipe is sloping away from the compressor, it lets the moisture run to the two drops. Seems to work okay, but it takes about 50' of copper pipe to get the moisture out of the air. Hope this helps

Jim
 

Blandnuts

I don't swallow; I only swoosh
Founding Member
Aug 21, 2000
1,172
124
124
FloorDuh
Oct 3, 2017
#13
  • Oct 3, 2017
  • #13
I'm jealous. Here I am using two Thomas Renegade 2 hp 4 gallon. It's a good thing it's quiet and body work isn't happening anytime soon.
 

Noobz347

Stangnet Facilities Maint Tech... Er... Janitor
Admin Dude
Jan 4, 1985
43,098
21,280
234
Box behind Walmart
Oct 3, 2017
#14
  • Oct 3, 2017
  • #14
I have a 3 gallon tank and a bicycle pump. It only works until my lips are numb.
Blandnuts said:
I'm jealous. Here I am using two Thomas Renegade 2 hp 4 gallon. It's a good thing it's quiet and body work isn't happening anytime soon.
Click to expand...


Throw a cheap storage tank into the middle of that and watch performance go up by 2. Take your feed from the new storage tank.
 
Reactions: Blandnuts and Hoytster

02 281 GT

Agreed...My wife has great Boobs
15 Year Member
Feb 3, 2009
3,208
1,972
194
Cabot, AR
Feb 6, 2019
#15
  • Feb 6, 2019
  • #15
I want to revive this because I need an opinion or two. I'm planning to use the 3/4" ID RapidAir kit that Hoytster posted above. I'm planning to use this filter/drier/regulator from PneumaticPlus. I'm planning to use the RapidAir kit to plumb a series of water traps using these automatic draining water collectors also from PneumaticPlus (unless someone can recommend a cheaper one with a manual drain). I'd like to plumb in at least three water traps.

I'm going with the larger tubing so I can get the maximum amount of CFM to the gun whenever I get around to actually using my setup to prime my '66 coupe.

My questions are:
1. Should I do more than three water traps since I plan to use this setup for primer and (possibly) paint?
2. Should I put the water traps before or after the filter/drier/regulator?

My current setup is pictured below. I am planning to mount the tubing to the wall behind everything, working around the hose reel as necessary. The filter/drier/regulator will be mounted to the 2x4 on which the reel is mounted. The traps will be to the left and/or right of the reel as space dictates. Other than the reel, I only plan one other outlet that I will route to exit near my workbench. Thoughts?

 

billison

I like tinted tail
15 Year Member
Feb 27, 2006
2,607
1,094
184
stl
Feb 6, 2019
#16
  • Feb 6, 2019
  • #16
Water traps before the filter. The idea is to cool
The air so the filter can catch it all.
 

KZGUNS

I can swing up to 11”
5 Year Member
Jul 23, 2018
1,002
588
133
chardon, Ohio
Feb 7, 2019
#17
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #17
I run a 60gal two stage sanborn and its plenty for using sanders etc.. mine fills to 155psi so when you regulate it down for sanders etc it doesnt run too much at all.
 

STEVE PATTON

I smell a conspiracy
Jan 6, 2019
201
89
53
ohio
Feb 7, 2019
#18
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #18
two stage key, check cfm@90 psi.hopefully above 14
 

02 281 GT

Agreed...My wife has great Boobs
15 Year Member
Feb 3, 2009
3,208
1,972
194
Cabot, AR
Feb 7, 2019
#19
  • Feb 7, 2019
  • #19
Does anyone have a suggestion on the number of water traps?
 

FoxMustangLvr

I love my Pimp
SN Certified Technician
Oct 14, 2012
4,968
3,514
204
Spokane, Wa
Feb 8, 2019
#20
  • Feb 8, 2019
  • #20
02 281 GT said:
Does anyone have a suggestion on the number of water traps?
Click to expand...
It's good to have about 35-50' of pipe between your compressor and your quick disconnect. Somewhere in that 35-50' run you should have a few vertical jogs with ball valves at the bottom of each. I think I have 4 total jogs with a valve at the bottom of each. After my up/down runs it goes to a water catch can/regulator, then you should have a desiccant filter , then to your quick disconnect fitting.
 
Reactions: 02 281 GT
  • 1
  • 2
Next
1 of 2 Next Last
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

B
Engine Another no start after washing engine bay
  • bruno
  • Apr 26, 2026
  • Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech
  • 2
Replies
24
Views
714
Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech May 7, 2026
AeroCoupe
M
Progress Thread mnky99 2001 V6 evap core, ac compressor, heater core replacement
  • mnky99
  • Sep 5, 2025
  • 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk-
Replies
1
Views
514
1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk- Sep 5, 2025
mnky99
M
P
Progress Thread New To Me 1988 GT - trying to set up vacuum lines for upper intake question
  • pindude80
  • May 6, 2025
  • Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech
  • 9 10 11
Replies
214
Views
14K
Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech Mar 28, 2026
pindude80
P
T
  • Locked
1990 2.3L automatic - real bad engine sputtering
  • the_steve_randolph
  • Jun 13, 2024
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
10
Views
1K
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Jun 14, 2024
the_steve_randolph
T
Resolved 93 Mustang 5.0 - Cranks but does not start
  • dan50
  • Jul 18, 2026
  • Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech
Replies
6
Views
128
Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech Jul 18, 2026
dan50
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?