TriBlkCobra
Founding Member
Plug in or splice in, it doesnt really matter. ALL Mil Eliminators use the same basic RC Low Pass filter circuit. They generally ALL do the same thing. The thing Dan does very well is follow up with his customers when they have problems.
With the plugins, they're resold by other people and the majority of people selling and reselling them dont have a clue how to troubleshoot them or even what specific issue could be wrong with them. Its easier to just exchange them.
The plain fact is that I've got bunches of Mil's that were returned and I put them on my car and they work just fine (I designed the plugin Mils for Dallas Mustang and several other companies have copied them. And Dallas Mustang was the first to market this product). I have even tweeked the DMP design slightly to address an issue fundamental to all the Mils out there, that is voltage division which occurs due to interaction in the Mil with the input impedence of the EEC. This just gives the test in the computer a little more margin to pass the high voltage level check, thats all.
Dan will probably even agree with this. Most problems with CEL's after Mil Elim install are due to improper exhaust installation with exhausts leaks being number one in my opinion.
I dont know how many times I've read how Brand X is better than Brand Y on these things. The one thing Dan Smith does really well is understand his product, understand how the product works in the car, and help his customers work thru any install issues. Not everyone building or selling Mil Eliminators has this knowledge. Within the last two months I worked on two cars with plug in Mil Eliminators who had CEL's. In both cases they'd tried new Mil Eliminators with no success. One car even had a competing brand of plugin Mil Eliminator to start with. In the end, they were both resolved with O2 sensor swaps, one had a bad front one causing tuning issues, the other had a rear one bad causing a failed rear O2 sensor test.
So when people post how one brand is better or worse than the other, thats really not the case. They're all electronically pretty much the same. The knowledge you get in the support from one brand to another is really the differentiating factor on these things. And Dan Smith does a great job in that regard. Someone made a comment about they'd be rich if they had a nickel/dime for everytime they read about plug in Mil Eliminator problems. Well, since they're actually an EXTREMELY low percentage of the number actually shipped (and they test fine most of the time anyway on return ) I guess SOMEONE is getting rich anyway, wish it was me but its not...
I imagine several will post this is total blasphemy and I dont know what I'm talking about, but I can assure you its totally true. After all, to the best of my knowlege my design for Dallas Mustang was the first of these to ever be marketed for late Model Mustangs. And it was done via understanding what tests were going on in the EEC, what signal levels were being looked for and how to make the signal look like what the computer was expecting when the cat was there.
Dan if you read anything in here you disagree please post back. Later, Willie
With the plugins, they're resold by other people and the majority of people selling and reselling them dont have a clue how to troubleshoot them or even what specific issue could be wrong with them. Its easier to just exchange them.
The plain fact is that I've got bunches of Mil's that were returned and I put them on my car and they work just fine (I designed the plugin Mils for Dallas Mustang and several other companies have copied them. And Dallas Mustang was the first to market this product). I have even tweeked the DMP design slightly to address an issue fundamental to all the Mils out there, that is voltage division which occurs due to interaction in the Mil with the input impedence of the EEC. This just gives the test in the computer a little more margin to pass the high voltage level check, thats all.
Dan will probably even agree with this. Most problems with CEL's after Mil Elim install are due to improper exhaust installation with exhausts leaks being number one in my opinion.
I dont know how many times I've read how Brand X is better than Brand Y on these things. The one thing Dan Smith does really well is understand his product, understand how the product works in the car, and help his customers work thru any install issues. Not everyone building or selling Mil Eliminators has this knowledge. Within the last two months I worked on two cars with plug in Mil Eliminators who had CEL's. In both cases they'd tried new Mil Eliminators with no success. One car even had a competing brand of plugin Mil Eliminator to start with. In the end, they were both resolved with O2 sensor swaps, one had a bad front one causing tuning issues, the other had a rear one bad causing a failed rear O2 sensor test.
So when people post how one brand is better or worse than the other, thats really not the case. They're all electronically pretty much the same. The knowledge you get in the support from one brand to another is really the differentiating factor on these things. And Dan Smith does a great job in that regard. Someone made a comment about they'd be rich if they had a nickel/dime for everytime they read about plug in Mil Eliminator problems. Well, since they're actually an EXTREMELY low percentage of the number actually shipped (and they test fine most of the time anyway on return ) I guess SOMEONE is getting rich anyway, wish it was me but its not...
I imagine several will post this is total blasphemy and I dont know what I'm talking about, but I can assure you its totally true. After all, to the best of my knowlege my design for Dallas Mustang was the first of these to ever be marketed for late Model Mustangs. And it was done via understanding what tests were going on in the EEC, what signal levels were being looked for and how to make the signal look like what the computer was expecting when the cat was there.
Dan if you read anything in here you disagree please post back. Later, Willie
