Okay guys, I've narrowed it down between these two. I hear good things about both. I need subframe connectors badly. My car shakes & rattles terribly. Especially driving on rough roads. I hear that S/F can fix my problem. I have a 2000 GT Vert. I know the stock ones that comes on the car is crap because it is bolted on rather than welded on. So which one is the way to go for a vert. IMO, I think the KB Extreme system looks like it'll stiffen my chassis better than the MM. But the K/B Suframes itself looks like reg. length. The MM has the full lenght. But doesn't come with the other stuff that KB has. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thx.