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OneWheelPeel · Apr 6, 2016

And torque box reinforcements. It sucks fixing them once they're ****ed up...

Great88 · Apr 6, 2016

im not 100 percent if the torque boxes were done before i purchased the car but im almost certain they were. And i know for a fact that the subframe connectors have already been done. Whats the next steps after that lol?

Great88 · Apr 6, 2016

also if i were to move onto doing piece by piece and not all at once because the budget currently doesnt allow for that what would be the process and what order should it be done in? please and thank you

cleanLX · Apr 6, 2016

I'm no expert, but I really don't believe converting to mass air is required (if keeping stock cam and heads...) so, someone correct me if I'm wrong, so intake and throttle body, go for it.
With tiny 125cc stock ports in the heads, you are not going to loose any low end throwing an intake and TB on it... just like you didn't when you put long tubes and 2.5" exhaust.

OneWheelPeel · Apr 6, 2016

You could put the explorer intake on now. Its not a bolt on but its easy.

stykthyn · Apr 6, 2016

OneWheelPeel said:
You could put the explorer intake on now. Its not a bolt on but its easy.

Technically it bolts on

Boosted92LX · Apr 6, 2016

stykthyn said:
Technically it bolts on

I've always scratched my head over the term "bolt on"....

stykthyn · Apr 6, 2016

Boosted92LX said:
I've always scratched my head over the term "bolt on"....

Honestly everything practically bolts on. I would think magazines mean accessories rather than swapping engine parts.

Boosted92LX · Apr 6, 2016

stykthyn said:
Honestly everything practically bolts on. I would think magazines mean accessories rather than swapping engine parts.

"I've got bolt full bolt ons and NAWS!"

mikestang63 · Apr 6, 2016

OneWheelPeel said:
You could put the explorer intake on now. Its not a bolt on but its easy.

go back 5 posts and read my message again. Waste of time IMO.

mikestang63 · Apr 6, 2016

I agree with what has been said- make the car handle, brake better first, then increase the hp. These cars came with terrible brakes and suspension for a 225hp car. Throw another 100hp on them and you are asking for trouble.

If you want to address hp, IMO the order would be

gears
shifter
94-95 Gt 70MM MAF
K&N panel filter
good cat back exhaust
NOS kit

Then when you are ready, either a good H/C/I or a Vortech.

Great88 · Apr 6, 2016

okay so everyone is sort of saying different things. I want to start the build but it seems like some are saying dont bother until you have a bunch of money to throw at and some are saying to go ahead and go piece by piece. I want to buy one throttle body. I dont want to waste money getting two of them. Same thing with the MAF since i dont have one. when i get my car out of storage i will double check about the speed density but from what im hearing you cannot do future mods like heads and cam without the car being converted to mass air. If anyone can clarify all of this that would be great. I just dont want to be in a position where i could pay one time for things that are needed and end up paying twice for unnecessary parts. Thanks again

A5literMan · Apr 6, 2016

Op, this is what I'd do. Save your money for horsepower improvements. I've read so many threads today(super slow work day) that I can't remember what all you've done to the car. Assuming the chassis/suspension/and brakes are done...you can only add power. If your car is still speed density and you don't want to swap out to an aftermarket ecu system(not needed unless you plan on adding significant power), you will need to convert to MAF. Only if you're going to add h/c/i or forced induction is the conversion needed.

All the "little" boltons/swaps(i.e. Intakes,electric wp,etc etc) will add or free up small horsepower improvements. As a total you would feel an improvement but each individual change will be small. Until you can add more air/fuel into the motor via heads,cam,intake and/or supercharger/turbo/nitrous. You should read/research which direction you would like to go in. Then start saving and/or buying individual parts until you have acquired all of them. Then you will have to make sure you have the fuel system,transmission,etc that can support said power level.

Or just concentrate on aesthetics/suspension/brakes/wheels and tires and just enjoy the cars power level.

mikestang63 · Apr 6, 2016

for the record, on my 87 SD car, I had

gears
Nitrous
intake
edelbrock heads
headers
exhaust
SD friendly crane cam- think it was a 2030?
U/D pulleys- yeah it was 30 years ago

So you can add to a SD car without converting to MAF. The FAST system and others are SD. The problem comes when you start making big changes in a cam or a blower that the EEC can't compensate for. Then you need a chip burned. If you keep the stock cam, you can add 1.7 rockers and you will be fine.

What people are trying to say is- make a plan, save up, and do it right the first time. It all depends on what your goal, budget is. You will want to swap over to MAF only because it allows better tuning and options down the road..

A5literMan · Apr 6, 2016

mikestang63 said:
for the record, on my 87 SD car, I had

gears

Nitrous

intake

edelbrock heads

headers

exhaust

SD friendly crane cam- think it was a 2030?

U/D pulleys- yeah it was 30 years ago

So you can add to a SD car without converting to MAF. The FAST system and others are SD. The problem comes when you start making big changes in a cam or a blower that the EEC can't compensate for. Then you need a chip burned. If you keep the stock cam, you can add 1.7 rockers and you will be fine.

What people are trying to say is- make a plan, save up, and do it right the first time. It all depends on what your goal, budget is. You will want to swap over to MAF only because it allows better tuning and options down the road..

Thanks. You said that much clearer than I did lol. Man I'm bored and been all over the internet today. Lol

OneWheelPeel · Apr 6, 2016

mikestang63 said:
go back 5 posts and read my message again. Waste of time IMO.

I agree but he did ask for what would be next if he chose to go piece by piece. If he wanted to do that then it would probably be the next best thing. It would also be a good project to familiarize himself with the engine and maybe help him decide if HCI is something he'd want to attempt doing in the future.

OneWheelPeel · Apr 6, 2016

Great88 said:
okay so everyone is sort of saying different things. I want to start the build but it seems like some are saying dont bother until you have a bunch of money to throw at and some are saying to go ahead and go piece by piece. I want to buy one throttle body. I dont want to waste money getting two of them. Same thing with the MAF since i dont have one. when i get my car out of storage i will double check about the speed density but from what im hearing you cannot do future mods like heads and cam without the car being converted to mass air. If anyone can clarify all of this that would be great. I just dont want to be in a position where i could pay one time for things that are needed and end up paying twice for unnecessary parts. Thanks again

There will never be a perfect answer on what to do next when it comes to cars. Everyone has different opinions on what they think is best and no one answer is the key to success. That's why we all mod our cars in the first place instead of buying saleen and roush mustangs. Its more fun to do it your way. Keep doing research and you'll get an idea of what you want.

Great88 · Apr 6, 2016

Okay so for a fact i know right now that i will not be putting a super/turbo charger on the car. Id prefer to stay with heads,cam and intake down the road.

stykthyn · Apr 6, 2016

Perfect. What is your HP goal? Intended use for the car?

Great88 · Apr 6, 2016

id say like 300 at least at the rear wheels. more is better of course

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