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Should I swap the motor or work on the v6?

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  • Work on the v6

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uhHollow

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Davedacarpainter said:
Very nice. What year is the engine?
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The engine was pulled from a 89 f350 with only 100k miles
 

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Just understand that it won't be a roller cam block, not a huge deal, just something to keep in mind when upgrading.

Have you already paid for the engine?
 

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No I haven't paid for the engine or anything. I was thinking of building the engine before putting it into my car and wanted to make the engine carbureted
 

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This is honestly my first build and I'm just learning along the way. The guy I'm buying it from is only selling the engine for 300$
 

uhHollow

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I should still be able to make good power out of the engine even though it's not a roller block right?
 

General karthief

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Yes, pay attention to camshaft breakin procedures and the two piece rear main seals are prone to seepage,
 

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The engine is currently efi but I want to convert it to carbureted
 

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Well,...you are in for a long wait.

Be advised:

The K member will have to be changed out to allow that 351 to mount. The transmission behind the 3.3 will not work either. There is a 7.5" rear in your car, and it will need to be changed out as well.

More than likely you'll need a different oil pan.

Since your current fuel system is carbureted, swapping the 351 over to a carburetor will be the easier path,...

If that engine runs, Leave it alone. Change out the pan, swap the intake and put a carburetor on it. In reading through this thread, I think that you're biting off more than you can chew,..but hey, you gotta learn somewhere.

I think you'd be better off finding, and getting a donor Mustang that has a complete 5.0 and it's related running gear and using that as a swap source. As much stuff as you have to change out on the current car will take a very long time unless you have about 10k sitting in a bank,...and if you do,..I'd sell the whole 79 car and buy a completed project. You can buy sweat for .50 on the dollar.
 
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uhHollow

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Davedacarpainter said:
Just understand that it won't be a roller cam block, not a huge deal, just something to keep in mind when upgrading.

Have you already paid for the engine?
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Would I be able to put a roller cam on the block or will I have to go take it to a machine shop?
 

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The engine is currently running but I was planning on upgrading the engine I did all the modifications to the car. I know it's going to be a long process for everything to get done to the car
 

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uhHollow said:
Would I be able to put a roller cam on the block or will I have to go take it to a machine shop?
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There are retro fit roller kits out there...the lifters are just linked together. Roller cams have been made looong before there were OEM roller cammed motors. Google is your friend.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=retrofit+hydraulic+roller+cam+kit+for+ford+351w
 

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Thanks! I know this build is going to take a lot of hours and money which is why I'm not in such a rush to finish it. I'm trying to learn more with every step I take on the build.
 
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I picked up the 351w yesterday so now I just need to start cleaning the engine up
 

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Now the fun part begins!

Pictures, baggies and a marker will be your friends here.
 

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stykthyn said:
You're going to be in for at least 4k like boosted said. I personally can't justify that for a 302 when for a few pennies more you can have a 347.

If it was me, this is just me mind you I'd be looking at 351 or bigger.
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While this sounds really good; And believe me I want this done to my project; the truth is if you're gonna swap you should buy a donor to simplify and even then you will need a lot of time and a lot of money. I am on the road you are about to venture down right now with a fox wagon build. Be prepared for a long haul. I am blue collar with a family so it is taking forever to find the time and money. I work overtime so I can afford my parts but then I don't have the time and energy to wrench. I believe I see light at the end of the tunnel, but it's dim.
 
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Wow! I didn't realize I replied to a first page post! Good luck with the swap!
 
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Cleaned the block a bit for now and I'm not worried about the heads since I'm going to be taken them off and putting some gt40 heads. I'm thinking about going with a gold theme since the car is red.
 

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What cams would you guys go with for a nice aggressive sound? I found some lunati voodoo hydraulic roller cams that sound pretty good.
http://www.lunatipower.com/Product.aspx?id=4735&gid=289
 
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Acoustics may not be the best reason to pick one cam over another. Then again, powerful engines do sound mean as *#%*!
 

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I talked to a tech at lunati years ago when piecing together my junk and they told me that the voodoo series cams are not well suited for efi.
If I remember right, which is rare, there is too much overlap, both valves open, thats what gives it that distinct sound.
 
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