• Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-

New track times

  • Thread starter Thread starter 1slow95
  • Start date Start date Sep 10, 2009
Prev
  • 1
  • 2
First Prev 2 of 2

revhead347

Apparently my ex-husband made that mistake.
20+ Year Stangneter
Jun 14, 2004
9,297
1,641
214
Acworth, GA
Sep 15, 2009
#21
  • Sep 15, 2009
  • #21
Yeah, a 2 bolt main with that much stroke. 6400rpms tops. I would say that is your problem.

Kurt
 

Rick 91GT

Mustang Master
Nov 29, 1999
9,692
95
99
PA
Sep 15, 2009
#22
  • Sep 15, 2009
  • #22
Low-5.0 said:
'69 block 351W, 2 bolt main no girdle. Forged crank, Scat H-beam rods, forged Probe pistons. I agree the heads should be good for 7000+ easy. They're listed at 4500-8500 RPM on AFR's website.
Click to expand...

All depends on what spring you have and what cam, its all about spring pressure and valvetrain weight.

Usually when I see things like your photo I find:
a. a chunk of piston missing
b. a piston that's crown was pulled up due to lean mixture
c. broken ring, and usually the piston...hehe
d. valve float

With the proper spec'd engine and components the 7000rpm limit is obtainable with the large stroke motor. I haven't seen excessive crank walk on the 69 windsors without a girdle but I usually install them if I plan to spin it high. Where's that combo make peak power and tq? What was the combo?
 

BlackVert

15 Year Member
Oct 3, 2003
5,589
9
98
Bethesda, MD
Sep 15, 2009
#23
  • Sep 15, 2009
  • #23
wow that sucks ... sorry to hear it. have you done a compression test?
 

Pokageek

Active Member
Jun 10, 2005
2,767
0
46
MA, USA
Sep 15, 2009
#24
  • Sep 15, 2009
  • #24
I tried 7k in mine for kicks. No issues. I may do that once in its life tho.
 

revhead347

Apparently my ex-husband made that mistake.
20+ Year Stangneter
Jun 14, 2004
9,297
1,641
214
Acworth, GA
Sep 15, 2009
#25
  • Sep 15, 2009
  • #25
I don't see the point in revving it that high. Your peak power band should be way below that rpm with that much displacement.

Kurt
 

1slow95

Founding Member
May 16, 2002
1,797
3
48
ohio
Sep 15, 2009
#26
  • Sep 15, 2009
  • #26
Rick 91GT said:
All depends on what spring you have and what cam, its all about spring pressure and valvetrain weight.

Usually when I see things like your photo I find:
a. a chunk of piston missing
b. a piston that's crown was pulled up due to lean mixture
c. broken ring, and usually the piston...hehe
d. valve float

With the proper spec'd engine and components the 7000rpm limit is obtainable with the large stroke motor. I haven't seen excessive crank walk on the 69 windsors without a girdle but I usually install them if I plan to spin it high. Where's that combo make peak power and tq? What was the combo?
Click to expand...

Peak tq is around 4300 and peak hp is 5800. I was shifting at 6200, though I would occasionally hit 6400-6500 in first gear. The only reason I went over that is because I missed a gear.

The combo is listed in my sig but I'll go ahead and post it again.
'69 block 420W 4.040 bore x 4.100 stroke, AFR 225 heads, custom hyd roller cam .600/.608 lift 240/248 duration 114lsa, Scorpion 1.6 RR's, Comp link bar lifters, Victor 5.8 intake, 80mm tb, 42# injectors, Kooks 1 7/8" headers, full 3" exhaust. Recently installed AEM EMS, converted to speed density, AEM cam/crank sensor, LQ9 coil packs.

The specs on the heads are here, Air Flow Research Cylinder Heads

If it was valve float would all the cylinders be trashed? I only have a problem with #8. It still runs decent, and still pulls good vacuum....or as good as it ever has anyways. Oil pressure is still good according to the stock gauge.
 

Rick 91GT

Mustang Master
Nov 29, 1999
9,692
95
99
PA
Sep 16, 2009
#27
  • Sep 16, 2009
  • #27
Low-5.0 said:
Peak tq is around 4300 and peak hp is 5800. I was shifting at 6200, though I would occasionally hit 6400-6500 in first gear. The only reason I went over that is because I missed a gear.

The combo is listed in my sig but I'll go ahead and post it again.
'69 block 420W 4.040 bore x 4.100 stroke, AFR 225 heads, custom hyd roller cam .600/.608 lift 240/248 duration 114lsa, Scorpion 1.6 RR's, Comp link bar lifters, Victor 5.8 intake, 80mm tb, 42# injectors, Kooks 1 7/8" headers, full 3" exhaust. Recently installed AEM EMS, converted to speed density, AEM cam/crank sensor, LQ9 coil packs.

The specs on the heads are here, Air Flow Research Cylinder Heads

If it was valve float would all the cylinders be trashed? I only have a problem with #8. It still runs decent, and still pulls good vacuum....or as good as it ever has anyways. Oil pressure is still good according to the stock gauge.
Click to expand...

I didn't see a sig in this thread, might be the Google Chrome I am viewing through.

Nice combo

Sometimes with Valve float you only trash 1 cylinder, or 1 valve...#* might be bent. However once you get it apart you may find other damage in the other cylinders that is just not as apparent. Marks in top of pistons, etc... Depends on the PTV you had and the spring pressures. With the spark plug showing damage, something got tossed around in the cylinder, either pistons, ring or valve.

I've seen broken pistons and broken rings that didn't show up on a compression test or leak down ...shocked me.
 

revhead347

Apparently my ex-husband made that mistake.
20+ Year Stangneter
Jun 14, 2004
9,297
1,641
214
Acworth, GA
Sep 16, 2009
#28
  • Sep 16, 2009
  • #28
I say fish all the chunks of metal out through spark plug hole with a magnet, and let's get back to racing. Oh, you are probably going to have to replace that spark plug, but if blow it off with a torch and regap it, that will save you $2 and a trip to the parts store.

Kurt
 

Rick 91GT

Mustang Master
Nov 29, 1999
9,692
95
99
PA
Sep 16, 2009
#29
  • Sep 16, 2009
  • #29
revhead347 said:
I say fish all the chunks of metal out through spark plug hole with a magnet, and let's get back to racing. Oh, you are probably going to have to replace that spark plug, but if blow it off with a torch and regap it, that will save you $2 and a trip to the parts store.

Kurt
Click to expand...

A 75 shot will make up for the cylinder
 

Pokageek

Active Member
Jun 10, 2005
2,767
0
46
MA, USA
Sep 16, 2009
#30
  • Sep 16, 2009
  • #30
I've got ultra lightweight connecting rods and steel crank. Lighter assembly which is why I may have no issues revving.
 
Prev
  • 1
  • 2
First Prev 2 of 2
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Hard to start when engine is cold
  • 86_Capri
  • Mar 11, 2026
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
  • 2
Replies
32
Views
921
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Jun 21, 2026
CAMTWO1070
Progress Thread Progress Thread- From6to8's 95 GT/Saleen Supercharged 331 install
  • from6to8
  • Mar 22, 2026
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
  • 2
Replies
24
Views
839
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- May 6, 2026
from6to8
Progress Thread Progress Thread- From6to8's 1994 Cobra Supercharger install
  • from6to8
  • Sep 25, 2025
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
  • 20 21 22
Replies
420
Views
9K
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- May 6, 2026
from6to8
Aod to t5 swap will it live?
  • 87slow.0
  • Nov 5, 2024
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Replies
8
Views
488
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Nov 5, 2024
87slow.0
D
Engine 85 GT Backfires through Carb
  • DienstXIV
  • Oct 3, 2025
  • Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech
Replies
19
Views
664
Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech Oct 7, 2025
85GTStangGuy
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?