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KRUISR

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How are your pinion angles? If you changed the trans mount, the new one could be a different height. The new trans could have a different height for that matter. If the car has been lowered, the angle could have changed.
 

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AnthonyA1234 said:
Is your driveshaft able to twist either direction a little or does it not budge at all? I’m having trouble finding out if that’s normal or not.

I know it’s not the tail shaft bushing because it’s brand new so that’s what made me think my old driveshaft yolk teeth are worn.
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All the driveshafts turn back and forth, that is the play on the ring gear and pinion. There is a little movement inside the tail housing bushing but not that much and that play won’t cause the rattling throug the shifter as far as I know.

I’m tempted to get the “Z” specs gear set out of the transmission and install the stock gears which are in perfect condition. Maybe the Z gears fit a bit too loose on the main shaft or don’t know what’s going on.
 

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For everyone wondering yes the summit racing driveshaft is just a repackaged ford racing shaft. I’ll be putting it in tonight.
 

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wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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AnthonyA1234 said:
For everyone wondering yes the summit racing driveshaft is just a repackaged ford racing shaft. I’ll be putting it in tonight.
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Soooooo, Ford Racing is giving you the shaft in-care-of Summit Racing?
 
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Got the driveshaft in last night, fixed the rattles. After the first drive I noticed the driveshaft got some scoring on it from the e brake cables, my old DS had this as well. Is this something to be concerned about or is it harmless?

As you can see in the pictures my old driveshaft had been in the car for who knows how long and the scoring never got any worse than minor surface scraping so I think it’ll be fine but let me know.

Also does anyone know how to fix this problem?
 

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You really don't want anything scrapping on an aluminum driveshaft, I can't see what's rubbing so can't comment.
 

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Rdub6 said:
All this talk of aluminum driveshafts….. has anyone ever used the ones offered by JEGS or Summit? What’s the quality difference between them and Ford Racing?
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Been ages since I bought one but the jegs / summit used to use the hybrid u joints vs all 1330 like the old frpp shafts.... There all made by neapco these days so you can generally find one cheaper if you shop around for a 45.5 shaft with 1330 Joints and yoke of your choice if you have a local shop.
 

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AnthonyA1234 said:
Got the driveshaft in last night, fixed the rattles. After the first drive I noticed the driveshaft got some scoring on it from the e brake cables, my old DS had this as well. Is this something to be concerned about or is it harmless?

As you can see in the pictures my old driveshaft had been in the car for who knows how long and the scoring never got any worse than minor surface scraping so I think it’ll be fine but let me know.

Also does anyone know how to fix this problem?
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Rebuild the old one, then have it balanced, without rerouting the e brake system for.more clearance all most every fox body will have that issue with the 3.5" shaft. I think it was 93 when they changed the routing design of it a bit.
 

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My 93 scrapes the FMS aluminum DS but the car has coil overs and is fairly low. You have to really compress the suspension to get it to scrape.

Check and see if the bracket that the rear ebrake cables snap into isn’t bent up or has pulled the spot welds.
 

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My 93 scrapes the FMS aluminum DS but the car has coil overs and is fairly low. You have to really compress the suspension to get it to scrape.

Check and see if the bracket that the rear ebrake cables snap into isn’t bent up or has pulled the spot welds.
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So I took a look at it today. For whatever reason my car does not have that e brake cable bracket. Maybe when they did the 5 lug disc brake swap they didn’t put it. Regardless it looks like the e brake cables are not rubbing.
It’s actually rubbing on my floor pan. Check out the pics below. I made another forum post for this if anyone has any suggestions.

Drivetrain - How to fix driveshaft rubbing on the floor pan?

How should I go about solving this? It makes no noise when driving the only way I know this happens is because of the marks on the DS. Can I just hammer the floor pan?
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Having a hard time figuring out where on the floor pan it’s rubbing. I’m guessing more towards the rear of the car?
 

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Having a hard time figuring out where on the floor pan it’s rubbing. I’m guessing more towards the rear of the car?
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Correct, here’s some more pics better showing where it is.
 

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Put a shorter trans mount in, it will move the trans side of you driveshaft further from the floor.

How much have you lowered the rear?
 

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KRUISR said:
Put a shorter trans mount in, it will move the trans side of you driveshaft further from the floor.

How much have you lowered the rear?
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The car has H&R sport springs. This is how it sits right now. About a two finger gap all the way around.

Are there any short poly trans mounts out there?
 

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So hitting the floor pan with a hammer a lil is out of the question?
 

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So is it just me or does it look like there has been a piece of sheet metal added over where the DS is hitting? Almost like a DS blew up and they patched the floor.

I had H&R Super Sports on my Coupe with 245/40R17’s on all four corners and never bottomed out there. What shocks are on the car?
 

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So is it just me or does it look like there has been a piece of sheet metal added over where the DS is hitting? Almost like a DS blew up and they patched the floor.

I had H&R Super Sports on my Coupe with 245/40R17’s on all four corners and never bottomed out there. What shocks are on the car?
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Bilsteins
 

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AnthonyA1234 said:
Are there any short poly trans mounts out there?
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I had a pinion angle issue and swapped the mount called for on a Fox (Prothane 6-1604) for a 6-1608 mount. It is about an inch shorter. If I remember right I had to modify where it mounts to the trans, but it lowered the rear of my trans quite a bit - I actually had to shim it up to get the angle within range.
 
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Shoot for the small stuff first. Check your fork, synchros, and believe it or not, the shifter cup bushing. You'd be surprised what that little stock plastic bushing can do, or even a wrongly mounted shifter / loose bolts.
 
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