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SO 3 weeks after new engine starts, i really get to feel what it has TODAY!

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  • Start date Start date Jul 26, 2006
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Foxfan88

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lol if u have been reading my topics.. my car ran slower than my stock engine.. only trapped 95 while my old stock engine mangaged 99 mph traps.

today i was tinkering around. Car has been running pretty sloppy, had a horrible header leak.

I figured i would replace the fuel filter. people on here suggested it, and it was cheap and easy so why not.
while i was there for the fuel filter, i asked if they had any good header gaskets in stock. Luckily i got the last pair, they are MR gasket ultra seal gasket, 12 bucks sounded like a good deal..

so i get to the garage, swap out the stock gaskets for the new ones, i am getting to be a master at header gasket swaps lol.... I get them one, take them for a drive, get them warm and nice, go back and re tighten them.

i jack up the car for the fuel filter, i swap the fuel filter. easy enough lol

i figured i would check my timing... i loosen the distributor. go to start the car, no start. acted like it was out of gas, would start and pop and die then would just crank after 5 mins or so.

i find a small gas can in the garage, dump it in the tank. turns out it was a mix, gas and weedeater oil YIKES lol.

i find some good gas, dump it in, car still wouldnt start. I checked for spark, moved the dizzy. checked everything, i started to get pissed. i gave the diz a small turn and the car fires right up. i had moved the dizy b4, so i guess the weedeater oil was jackin with it, it burned all of it hehe the car smelled like a weedeater for 10 mins.

i go to advance the timing, ever since i have had the new engine, the dizzy has always looked like it was turned too counter clockwise, but it was aligned with my marks on the balancer. So i figured it was right, so i set the timing to my 10 deg mark on the balancer. car idled low like it always has.

took it to get gas, car was a DOG, wouldnt pull itself at all. popped and was just plain slow and doggy. turns out what i thought was 10deg adv was WAY RETARDED. I get back to the garage, adjust the timing, but this time by ear. i advance it until the engine sounds a little healthier, idled alot better and a bit higher.

took the car out for a drive.

WHAM! after 3 weeks i really feel what the new engine has. car picked up ALOT, i mean ALOT! when i goose it in 1st, its like the car is just revving up. the tach FLIES and i mean FLIES to the rev limiter. car sounds like a monster, no leaks and just plain sounds healthy, my bucking problem. its gone. i definatly felt a big difference, i can say for sure my car is faster.

car runs awesome and i am sure this was my whole problem...

thanks everyone who helped me.

ps, what would cause the timing marks to be so off on the balancer, when in good time the marks are 1.5 inches to the right of the pointer.
 

ryan218

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sweet now take it to the track and get some new times
 

Foxfan88

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yeah i plan to haha!

i think the camshaft advance may be whats throwing off the balancer marks...
 

795.0pacecar

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Im curious to know what your timing is right now. The highest I have had mine is 15º.
 

Dean85GT

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Way to put oil in there. ahahhaha. Good to hear its running good though.
 

smittyb

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Did you put a new balancer on with the new engine?
 

grey5.0beast

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U know what would really burst ur bubble? If you wen to the track and ran another 16.8...

j/k man, I hope you hit 12s...
 

bynummustang

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Congrats man, its good to see you progress like you have. 16.x's, then battery relocation, T-5 swap, new engine, and doing the work as you go. Nice Work.
 

RsStanG1987

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I think your all around full of sh it about every thing you post..
 

88 Fox GT

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Well take it to the track and find out. Don't guess.

There's no way your timing marks should be off on the harmonic balancer unless the key is starting to shear off or something.
 
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Boss 351

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Sometimes the rubber in the damper can cause the outside of it to turn... if that makes any sense?
 

Woodrow

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Foxfan88 said:
I get back to the garage, adjust the timing, but this time by ear. i advance it until the engine sounds a little healthier, idled alot better and a bit higher.
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WTF man, drive over to the local parts store and 99% of them have a timing light you can use. Hell most shops will loan you one for 5 min to check it.
 
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I have never heard of or seen a shop that would lend shop or personal tools. I've worked in shops and I never let anyone use my tools either.
 

90mustangGT

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I think it was the 2cycle oil that did it. J/K

Glad you got it fixed. I knew it was somthing simple, a combo like yours is similar to what I had and I war running 8.4's at 85mph in the 1/8th. Good luck. Sometimes, timing by ear is the best way. I noticed with mine, when I timed it by ear I got the best performance.

Grey5.0Beast: That was mean.

Boss351: I agree, the balancer can be wrong.

I would suggest pulling the #1 plug and on the compression stroke; see where the balancer is marked at TDC. They sell timing strips because this is such a common problem, mismarked balancers.
 

grey5.0beast

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90mustangGT said:
I think it was the 2cycle oil that did it. J/K

Grey5.0Beast: That was mean.

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90MustangGT:that was mean

Wtf man I was kidding lol I said J/K Whats different from me saying somehting and u saying somethimg, both sayingJ/K
 

DMAN302

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So now you still don't know what the timing is set at? Cam being advanced has no effect on the initial or advanced timing you have set with the dist.
 

z2o_what

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RsStanG1987 said:
I think your all around full of sh it about every thing you post..
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me too
 

795.0pacecar

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Maybe he advanced it with the spout in.
 

pistonhead351

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RsStanG1987 said:
I think your all around full of sh it about every thing you post..
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what the *ucks your problem buddy? everytime foxfan does something you have a get on his shi*. get a life and worry about your own shi*, you keyboard warrior.
 

poneypower89

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please be careful using that SOTP Dyno again

You also said it was way faster when u first got it going

Go get some times and come back
 
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