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Today's mustang day-dream: Ever felt like building a slower fox?

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FastDriver

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I found it Ironic today that while I sat contemplating what I would do if I could find another 5.0 project to build, I realized that I've gotten to the point that I'd rather build something simpler than I already have. Of course when I started off it was always about building something bigger and faster and it's progressed to the point I'm at now - a potentially 4 digit rwhp monster (at least in my book). I can still see growing in the future.

But today, I thought about what I would do if I could start a new project. I found that I'd really like to get an 87-93 notch and try and run mid 12s with bolt-ons. I think my combo would be something simple. Here's what I day dreamed up.

87-93 notch

Engine:
1 5/8" long tubes w/ H-pipe dumped
Cobra, or GT40 intake
1.72 roller rockers
short belt
UD pullies
75mm MAF (if it's a MAF year)
65mm TB
stock heads/cam
Electric fan or removed fan/clutch at the track
AFM or similar Cold air intake
bumped timing
AFPR

Other parts:
Subframe connectors
4 cyl front springs w/ remove front sway bar
ET Streets on welds with skinnies up front
Air-bag in right rear
Battery moved to the back
4.10 gears
Wabro pump
manual steering rack
Pro50 shifter
KC clutch (would the stocker hold up at this power level I wonder?)

weight:
removed A/C
Removed smog pump
removed power steering
removed dog-bone
remove spare tire
fiberglass hood

I think this car would go 12s pretty easily, and it would be so much fun on the street with drag radials on 10-hole rims, assuming they make any that fit. The look on vette owner's faces and LS1s etc would be prices from a stop light. What other little stuff am I missing?

Who on here already has this car, and how's it running?

Chris
 

SVT32VDOHC

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I see where you are coming from and it would be cool. A fast budget built fox. Since it is gonna have removed items and no options, at least get a badass set of wheels for the street and a hell of a nice paint job. IMO...when I'm at the track...there is nothing worse than a 12-13 second bolt on Mustang that looks like a heap.
 

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What if your car is still slow.

I wish I was in your position, haha. But I'd be more concerned with what my next wild build would be. After the Stang is violently fast and looks good to boot, I think I'd like to build a truck. Maybe a really old Bronco.
 

FastDriver

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NikwoaC said:
What if your car is still slow.
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Then I guess I'd have to sell it and pretend it never happened

I wish I was in your position, haha. But I'd be more concerned with what my next wild build would be. After the Stang is violently fast and looks good to boot, I think I'd like to build a truck. Maybe a really old Bronco.
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I have such a long way to go, in my mind, with my current mustang. It's all just a pipe dream, but it's fun.
 

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I kinda want to build another Stang, but after Hack Job, I'm kinda done. I look at everybodies progress threads along with my own...and I'm like...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...lol.

I don't think I want to begin a project like mine again. Maybe a wreck. I like just fixing what is wrecked, painting that area and being done...
 

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You talked about 10 holes. I always thought it'd be cool to chop and widen a pair to 9 inches or so and re-machine the face to that diamond-cut look where it shines like crazy (like how the new high-end machined wheels look), polish the center caps and repaint the "Ford" text high gloss black. Mini-tub the car (but don't trash the interior) and run 315+ tires in back, but stock size tires in front. It would look sooooo sick.
 

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SVT32VDOHC said:
I kinda want to build another Stang, but after Hack Job, I'm kinda done. I look at everybodies progress threads along with my own...and I'm like...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...lol.

I don't think I want to begin a project like mine again. Maybe a wreck. I like just fixing what is wrecked, painting that area and being done...
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Have you ever thought about making something of a career in building cars for people? Hack Job came out beautiful and look how quick it sold.
 

FastDriver

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SVT32VDOHC said:
I kinda want to build another Stang, but after Hack Job, I'm kinda done. I look at everybodies progress threads along with my own...and I'm like...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...lol.

I don't think I want to begin a project like mine again. Maybe a wreck. I like just fixing what is wrecked, painting that area and being done...
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Can you link me? I'm not sure I've seen this one.

NikwoaC said:
You talked about 10 holes. I always thought it'd be cool to chop and widen a pair to 9 inches or so and re-machine the face to that diamond-cut look where it shines like crazy (like how the new high-end machined wheels look), polish the center caps and repaint the "Ford" text high gloss black. Mini-tub the car (but don't trash the interior) and run 315+ tires in back, but stock size tires in front. It would look sooooo sick.
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I'd love to see something like this.

SVT32VDOHC said:
IMO...when I'm at the track...there is nothing worse than a 12-13 second bolt on Mustang that looks like a heap.
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My thoughts about 10 holes are that they'd never see it coming from a car that looked so plain. I'm not really talking about a heap. I could not be seen in a worn out mustang... It has to be clean, but stock looking/sleeper is fun for me.

Chris
 

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I have every intention of building a reasonably slow(er) Fox down the road. Might try to find a red convertible with a black interior. I'd probably stay with the stock cam, do a clean up of the E7's, throw on some 1.7 rockers, and toss a blower on it. Might add a Cobra rear bumper and maybe sideskirts, but otherwise, I'd leave it alone. Stock drivability, more than enough power on tap, and reliable.
 

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I think your idea is kinda what most of us have "just because"

I mean, i'm not TRYING to build a 12 second car, i've just ended up there. Personally i would totally love to find a mint condition 4cyl 5spd coupe for a daily driver and leave it totally bone stock and showcar condition.
 

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SVT32VDOHC said:
I see where you are coming from and it would be cool. A fast budget built fox. Since it is gonna have removed items and no options, at least get a badass set of wheels for the street and a hell of a nice paint job. IMO...when I'm at the track...there is nothing worse than a 12-13 second bolt on Mustang that looks like a heap.
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Hey now, i resemble that
 

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That set up would be fun, I personally would love to restore a fox with a stock motor, and set it up to go 12s myself, just no funds or time!
 
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i wish i wouldnt have modded mine at all! just gears and paint and rims!
 

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25thmustang said:
That set up would be fun, I personally would love to restore a fox with a stock motor, and set it up to go 12s myself, just no funds or time!
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Isn't that what your car is, just with nicer wheels and paint? Sarcasm?
 

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I sold my 10 sec, 331 hatch for a my notch that i will have running mid 11s with perfect street manners. I got tired of having more of a "race car" than a "street car"
 

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that just screams explorer swap.toss in the stock h.o cam and there you go.
 

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Sounds like the kind of car I want mine to be one day, minus the stripped down amenities. I already have the explorer motor; now I need brakes, susp, and a paint job, but my funds wont allow it at the moment.

I always liked the idea of a car that runs in street trim with full interior, no slicks, no short belt, no intake ice, and ect. I dont know, but a good quick street car impresses me the most... even if its not the fastest.

SVT32VDOHC said:
I see where you are coming from and it would be cool. A fast budget built fox. Since it is gonna have removed items and no options, at least get a badass set of wheels for the street and a hell of a nice paint job. IMO...when I'm at the track...there is nothing worse than a 12-13 second bolt on Mustang that looks like a heap.
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85_SS_302_Coupe said:
Hey now, i resemble that
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As soon as I read that I skipped the all the other post and looked for 85_SS post.
You're getting there, I think your car is pretty bad ass.
 

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i know what you mean chris, i havent gotten into the really "fast" zone yet, but i would love, someday, to build a kickass little street car out of a stocker that i could take anywhere and kick ass with whenever i wanted.
 
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That is pretty much what I am running in my notch except I have an AOD. Have not gotten a chance to drive it much yet. I am going to try to get it on a dyno in 2 weeks and will post the results if I do.
 

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I've been thinking of adding all of my bolt ons to the car and leaving the heads and cam for another day.
 
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