Want to rebuild one of two motors just dont know which one would be better. I have a 351 roller engine out of a 95 e150 and a 302 out of my mustang as far as after market parts i have 75mm mass air 75mm throttle body tfs track heat intake 30lb injectors gt40 heads mac headers e303 caml. Now i know most of my parts would interchangable minus lower intake but what would give me more power for my money i wanna spend about 3000..Anyone have an opinion on this?
what should i do??
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99FiveOh
15 Year Member
Well, I'm faced with a similar decision myself. I'm going with the 351W for dependability and strength for future mods.
With 3000.00 at your disposal, you could probably do alot better than me by getting the proper parts right off the bat like nice aluminum heads and intake. I'm pretty much using all the parts you listed for your 302 on my 351. I'll be fun from red light to red light but no top end, as I've been told.
Good luck!
With 3000.00 at your disposal, you could probably do alot better than me by getting the proper parts right off the bat like nice aluminum heads and intake. I'm pretty much using all the parts you listed for your 302 on my 351. I'll be fun from red light to red light but no top end, as I've been told.
Good luck!
I would need to know what your long term goal is for your Stang 
but
Based upon what I saw
Looks like you were going for the OEM GT40 based combo
Depending upon parts used
Those combos yield 245 to 285 rwhp for an average amount of power
Don't know what your long term budget is
but
A couple of thoughts for ya
Based upon the fact you wanna be at 300+
With the 5.0 you need to move up to aftermarket parts for NA
of
If you keep the OEM stuff you gotta go PA
With NA and aftermarket parts ... 3K is only a drop in the bucket
1200 heads
250 rockers
530 intake
350 custom cam
320 lt's
180 mid pipe
400 gears
600 tune
That short list is only the key parts and don't inlcude supporting stuff
like fuel pump, valve covers, head bolts, push rods, etc
You don't say what kind of trans you got but if an auto
The above combo would be a real dog with one unmodified
so
You would need a high stall tc and shift kit ... $$$
Now ... the above is for new parts
and
I quickly threw up those numbers from a very quick estimate
BUT ... You can see the 3K is not enough for a quest of 300+
Lets now go in a different direction
Keep your OEM heads and cam and use juice or a blower
With PA ... the choice in parts are not nearly as critical as with NA :Word:
I myself don't care for juice ... but ... It is there for you
S trim would be nice
but
You've not gained much with how far you can go with only 3K
You pony up for a kit
big inj's
tune
etc
Again ... you've gone way beyond the 3K
Lastly ... The Windsor option
You gotta gather up the parts to make it fit such as
hood
flywheel
headers
hb
etc
To cut to the chase ... 3K ain't gonna take you all that far
I'd say the NA route and S trim route are about the same amount of money
but
You make more ponies with the blower over the NA method
Please ... Don't think I'm trying to rain all over your parade
It is just a fact
Speed cost money
How fast do you wanna spend
Grady
but
Based upon what I saw
Looks like you were going for the OEM GT40 based combo
Depending upon parts used
Those combos yield 245 to 285 rwhp for an average amount of power
Don't know what your long term budget is
but
A couple of thoughts for ya
Based upon the fact you wanna be at 300+
With the 5.0 you need to move up to aftermarket parts for NA
of
If you keep the OEM stuff you gotta go PA
With NA and aftermarket parts ... 3K is only a drop in the bucket
1200 heads
250 rockers
530 intake
350 custom cam
320 lt's
180 mid pipe
400 gears
600 tune
That short list is only the key parts and don't inlcude supporting stuff
like fuel pump, valve covers, head bolts, push rods, etc
You don't say what kind of trans you got but if an auto
The above combo would be a real dog with one unmodified
so
You would need a high stall tc and shift kit ... $$$
Now ... the above is for new parts
and
I quickly threw up those numbers from a very quick estimate
BUT ... You can see the 3K is not enough for a quest of 300+
Lets now go in a different direction
Keep your OEM heads and cam and use juice or a blower
With PA ... the choice in parts are not nearly as critical as with NA :Word:
I myself don't care for juice ... but ... It is there for you
S trim would be nice
but
You've not gained much with how far you can go with only 3K
You pony up for a kit
big inj's
tune
etc
Again ... you've gone way beyond the 3K
Lastly ... The Windsor option
You gotta gather up the parts to make it fit such as
hood
flywheel
headers
hb
etc
To cut to the chase ... 3K ain't gonna take you all that far
I'd say the NA route and S trim route are about the same amount of money
but
You make more ponies with the blower over the NA method
Please ... Don't think I'm trying to rain all over your parade
It is just a fact
Speed cost money
How fast do you wanna spend
Grady
99FiveOh
15 Year Member
Food for thought. When I did my S trim kit in my old 95 gt I had 2 grand in the kit used, but like brand new, almost complete kit came with power pipe as well.
42# Injectors: 300
80mm Pro M: 80 bucks on ebay
255 HP fuel pump: 110
AFPR Aeromotive: 110
Chip: 130 on corral
Tune: 200 at HP Performance in Orange park fl.
So my total was under 3 grand and I probably spent about 100 bucks on misc. crap like a punch and tap for oil return and some plumbing pieces from home depot. Also oil change stuff.
I plan to do it again with either a S/C or a turbo after my windsor is in the car.
42# Injectors: 300
80mm Pro M: 80 bucks on ebay
255 HP fuel pump: 110
AFPR Aeromotive: 110
Chip: 130 on corral
Tune: 200 at HP Performance in Orange park fl.
So my total was under 3 grand and I probably spent about 100 bucks on misc. crap like a punch and tap for oil return and some plumbing pieces from home depot. Also oil change stuff.
I plan to do it again with either a S/C or a turbo after my windsor is in the car.
Spend the $3,000 on the better heads, cam and intake. That combo listed on a 351 will give you dissipointing results.
Adam95GT
New Member
Just take your time... After a few years court appearances etc... my list came out kinda cheap...
Trick flow Heads and energy suspension mounts after court selling the rest of the motor i got scammed on came out to $80
Head work $300
Short block Pokageeks 306 $500
Track heart manifold $350
24 lbers $50
24 lb maf $60
Pulleys $55
Ford racing clutch $75
Slotted rotors $80
Engine bay paint $200
Valve covers $80
Throttle body/ fox conversion $175
Lower control arms $60
Rims and tires $400
Aluminum DS $140
Low mileage t5 $350
New top $125
Clock pod $20
New water pump/ Starter $$ free
gasket sets $$$ free
Cobra RR hood $100
2 cats $70
Tube K member $175
Sport line springs $100
Traded stuff for a s-281
MGW shifter $135
so deals can be found... but after looking at this... **** i dropped a load of money.... but i hope i hit atleast 290...
Trick flow Heads and energy suspension mounts after court selling the rest of the motor i got scammed on came out to $80
Head work $300
Short block Pokageeks 306 $500
Track heart manifold $350
24 lbers $50
24 lb maf $60
Pulleys $55
Ford racing clutch $75
Slotted rotors $80
Engine bay paint $200
Valve covers $80
Throttle body/ fox conversion $175
Lower control arms $60
Rims and tires $400
Aluminum DS $140
Low mileage t5 $350
New top $125
Clock pod $20
New water pump/ Starter $$ free
gasket sets $$$ free
Cobra RR hood $100
2 cats $70
Tube K member $175
Sport line springs $100
Traded stuff for a s-281
MGW shifter $135
so deals can be found... but after looking at this... **** i dropped a load of money.... but i hope i hit atleast 290...
Alrite so i stay with the 302 and i get a new set of heads (would only go with afr dont know what size) should i keep my steeda #19 cam in it or do i need to go with one more radical fordstrokers is selling a 347 shortblock for 2400 would i be better off just to get the shortblock and wait a little to get the heads or just get heads and throw them on my 302 and maybe get a blower,found a guy selling a s trim kit for 1500 complete set my 302 has 100k miles on how much power is to much for it?
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