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extra_stout

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older than 2000 there are many very good german cars... later. not so much.
Did you know that you have to use metric wrenches...
 
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extra_stout said:
older than 2000 there are many very good german cars...
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Not since the 1980s or so...

extra_stout said:
Did you know that you have to use metric wrenches...
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I haven't kept any Imperial/SAE wrenches in my toolbox for work since I left Firestone in 2013, or sockets for that matter. Everything is metric on even the American cars now. Hell, BMW rarely uses metric hex, everything's torx, e-torx, triple-square, allen, or some proprietary bull that needs a special tool from the tool room.

That's my wrench drawer at the BMW dealership:




The most shining example of how horrible German cars are engineered and built is the cabin air filter. On a Hyundai, Ford, Toyota, Nissan, or any other car not designed by idiots, it requires minimal or no tools, takes 30 seconds, and is easy.

BMW has models that take three hands, one that requires airbag removal for this MAINTENANCE item, and another where the question isn't whether you're gonna cut one of your fingers getting it out, it's how many times it's going to happen.

I despise German cars.
 
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MustangIIMatt said:
Not since the 1980s or so...



I haven't kept any Imperial/SAE wrenches in my toolbox for work since I left Firestone in 2013, or sockets for that matter. Everything is metric on even the American cars now. Hell, BMW rarely uses metric hex, everything's torx, e-torx, triple-square, allen, or some proprietary bull that needs a special tool from the tool room.

That's my wrench drawer at the BMW dealership:
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But you did switch your crescents for metric crescents, right?
 
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MustangIIMatt said:
metric hex, everything's torx, e-torx, triple-square, allen, or some proprietary bull that needs a special tool from the tool room
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This is why this is such an "exclusive" "premium" car... otherwise it would be cheap to buy and cheap to repair. There must be a difference to cheaper cars.
 

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extra_stout said:
This is why this is such an "exclusive" "premium" car... otherwise it would be cheap to buy and cheap to repair. There must be a difference to cheaper cars.
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Lexus is just as premium as BMW, just as expensive as BMW, and is honestly no more difficult to work on, and requires no more in the way of tooling than a ho-hum Toyota Corolla. Your argument is invalid.
 

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LILCBRA said:
But you did switch your crescents for metric crescents, right?
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https://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&page=group_detail&groupID=1500

Sure did.
 
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But those aren't crescent wrenches....
 
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LILCBRA said:
But those aren't crescent wrenches....
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But very good tools from germany
 
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I figured it out the other day, BMW isn't actually a car company, they suck at it too badly for that to be what they're really doing. They're actually a tool company.

Hear me out.

McDonald's executives have admitted that they make more off real estate than they do the food, that the food is just what attracts their customers (the franchisees) to the prime real estate they gather up to sell or lease.

BMW throws out ty cars that need special tools, and Hazet, Knipex, and Stahlwille, who all make FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC tools supply them. BMW must own stock in those guys.
 
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LILCBRA said:
But those aren't crescent wrenches....
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They're the metric kind, that's why you don't recognize them. They even have metric size markings on them.
 
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@2Blue2 is gonna come back to his thread and wonder what the hell happened.
 
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Those are the metric equivalent of an imperial Channellock, just saying.
Your crescent style wrenches also have measurement markings on them, but I can't read them in your pic. I think they're metric......
 

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MustangIIMatt said:
wonder what the hell happened.
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This forum has been posting dead for weeks I'm glad to see spirited discussion on anything.


LILCBRA said:
Those are the metric equivalent of an imperial Channellock,
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but can I fix my squealing PS~ POS with them non imperial gems
 

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By the way: this is the only cobra I possess:
 
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I like tools that say Ford on em but Cobra thats another level.

#uck Mr. good pliers

My research shows that just buying a rack is the easy way out but lines can/will still be problematic.
 

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2Blue2 said:
but can I fix my squealing PS~ POS with them non imperial gems
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You can try one of these - it's a universal tool for both metric and imperial units....






Seriously though, from what I understand, Ford pumps from this era were prone to squealing. I think the only way to guarantee it won't squeal anymore is to just eliminate it - hell, that's what I did!
 
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LILCBRA said:
Those are the metric equivalent of an imperial Channellock, just saying.
Your crescent style wrenches also have measurement markings on them, but I can't read them in your pic. I think they're metric......
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False, Knipex Cobra pliers, as posted by @extra_stout are metric chanellocks.

The metric system is superior, I'll never argue that, I'll just laugh and point out our **** up 'murican/English system went to the moon and that adopting the metric system earlier didn't help Germany build better cars, just better tools.
 

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2Blue2 said:
but lines can/will still be problematic
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why? Are the worn or damaged?
If the are just old. I would try it with an rebuild kit for the existing rack. Then you could get it back on the road. If you want to get rid of the squeal and do an upgrade you can wait till I can say if my system works fine or not ;-)
 

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The metric system is easier to do math with, that's for sure. When it comes down to thousandths of an inch and under, imperial was easier to keep within tolerances for me. But that's probably just because that's what I was dealing with 99% of the time and all of my tools needed to be converted to do any kind measuring. There were times, though, when metric tolerances were just too loose comparatively - but that's another story for another day......
 

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MustangIIMatt said:
The metric system is superior, I'll never argue that, I'll just laugh and point out our **** up 'murican/English system went to the moon and that adopting the metric system earlier didn't help Germany build better cars, just better tools.
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Can we agree that at a time in history some american cars where better then some german cars and vice versa, but french cars where always ty?!
 
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