5.0 mustang vs. 03 GTI

86ttopmustang i think you should take mobs advice and start reading! Theres alot to be learned in these forums this is where i learned all the mustang specific stuff i know. This site has helped me build 1 motor 2 transmissions and 1 rearend so far and everythings been good for the most part! and btw I just turned 18, Its good to have another young guy on here!

i'm another 18 year old, and two years ago when i bought my first mustang i didn't know **** (you could tell by the car that i didnt know **** haha). but now i'm more knowledgeable about the inner workings of an automobile than all of my friends and most of the adults i know. especially 5.0's.

just keep reading around like nick said and you'll just gain so much knowledge it'll astound you.

not to change the subject- i'm really unsure of the internals of my remanu'd motor, but i get the rocking when i'm sitting at a stoplight. pretty sure it's the stock cam, and i've got a little lope in my exhaust note at idle too, so chances are you've got a stock cam too bro

::Jongo:: said:

i say your both losers. prolly going to be street racing=teh loss
grow up and don't join a mustang forum to ask whos gunna win!!!!

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actually they are going to the track, what now?

edit: and i raced my friends GTi from a roll and i pulled, when stock. and then we took it to the track and i smoked him. still when i was stock. so i think ull be fine, oh it was 5-speed btw.

5.oh my god said:

My only question is why the hell is the gti sporting a manual boost controller if its already chipped.
Chipping the 1.8t will increase the boost and i have hear as much as 220 whp depending on the chip. so id say it possible that he could win but it would be close.

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A friend of mine had a manual gti with almost the same mods as this one. With just the chip he was running mid 14's. He had a digital boost controller and was almost getting 20 psi out of it and was running 13's on drag radials. But if the car is an auto you wont have any problem beating him. Even with those mods it probably a high 14 or low 15 second car. There auto trannies are just as bad if not worse than aod's.

+1 for the youngins, ill be 18 next friday. but i agree with 5.0fox and mob, most of the stuff i know about cars and especially mustangs i learned from reading these forums everyday. i think it will be a good race from what ive heard the newer vws respond very well to mods but goodluck

Euphoric306 said:

not to change the subject- i'm really unsure of the internals of my remanu'd motor, but i get the rocking when i'm sitting at a stoplight. pretty sure it's the stock cam, and i've got a little lope in my exhaust note at idle too, so chances are you've got a stock cam too bro

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It sounds like a cam because its speed density not your internals... Ive had 3 speed density stangs and they all sounded like that because of a small vac leak maybe check that out also speed density cars are a little more agressive then mass air cars because i belive the cam is a little moreagressive in 87 & 88

86ttopmustang said:

i guess i'll just have to start reading and learning stuff through the forums. I'm also gunna do things by trial and error.

Should I convert to Mass Air?

About How much is it going to cost?

What exactly do I need to change it over?

Thanks

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A.. Not unless you plan on modding the motor
B Between 150 and 400 dollars depending on the way you do it
C Wiring harness, computer, mass air sensor, Inlet tube and bracket...

86ttopmustang: I wouldnt convert to Mass Air until its needed. You can mod your car alot with SD but when you get to the point where you want to run a aggressive cam or larger injectors thats when you will run into problems and will want to upgrade. Heads, intake, exhaust, even some cams can be modded with SD. Im running Ford 5.0 Nitrous HP NX264HR Cam with SD and it runs perfect.
DESCRIPTION:
HYDRAULIC ROLLER: High performance street. With 75-125HP nitrous kit or small blower. Lopey idle.

My roomate has a 1.8T with a chip, larger intercooler, CAI , full exhaust , and I can destroy him easily even with my minimal mods.

RsStanG1987 said:

It sounds like a cam because its speed density not your internals... Ive had 3 speed density stangs and they all sounded like that because of a small vac leak maybe check that out also speed density cars are a little more agressive then mass air cars because i belive the cam is a little moreagressive in 87 & 88

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you might have signatures turned off, i know some people do now, but my car's already coverted to mass air

Euphoric306 said:

you might have signatures turned off, i know some people do now, but my car's already coverted to mass air

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Was the engine you have in your car the origional engine you had rebuilt if so thats why it sounds like it has a cam because its a speed density cam...

:Word:Kidnap his fast and then see how bad he thinks he is!

You could like hang his fast from a noose on your rear view and make sure he sees it yeah yeah that would be teh win

86ttopmustang said:

i never had the engine rebuilt i only bought the car about 3 weeks ago. i plan on rebuilding it but with the newer pistons from like a 91 5.0 since i heard something about the pistons that came stock on the 86 5.0......not sure what it is but someone said that they were different from all of the otther years

any help on clearing this up would be greatly appreciated

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I had an 86. They came with flat top pistons, smaller intake/heads/TB

EDIT: Sorry, I see that's all been said- Dman in da house! Okay when I was 17 my dad had mine (86) rebuilt back stock with a cam, and you could barely tell it had one... my friends and I will never know but we think it was a Bcam That's probably all she could take with those heads.

Shakerhood said:

I think you might wish to rethink your statement. There are MANY VW Products out there, VW owns Audi, Lamborghini, Bentley, and Buggati, if fact they are the highest Horsepower group Company in business. The one Buggati with the W16 Engine makes 1001 HP and does 0-60 in 3 Seconds.

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I mentioned S4 and S8. And the chance of racing a Lambo, Bentley or Buggati anywhere are nil. Hence, I didnt mention them because none of us will likely ever race one. Even rolling up to an S4 or S8 is a stretch since people that drive those most likely won't put the hammer down! And I know what I'm talking about, I've driven the cars and met the (in general) limp wristed turds that drive expensive cars.