Speeds8erM-1 said:
That is funny. I like how you twist all the pros on a 5.0L, and list cons on the 4.6L. Let's do a little swapping there...
Um, that would be the 5.0L that gets the "trick" treatment...
Speeds8erM-1 said:Accessorry loss is a loss, well considering it can be deleted for free while doing maintaince (new belt), I wouldnt call it much of a mod. The 4.6 doesnt have it so thats apples to apples. You would think with their better flowing heads and new technology they wouldnt need all these smoke and mirror tricks.
matt93notch said:what is funny is whats in your avatar and what is says above it
5spd GT said:That is funny. I like how you twist all the pros on a 5.0L, and list cons on the 4.6L. Let's do a little swapping there...
Um, that would be the 5.0L that gets the "trick" treatment...It gets harder to improve upon as perfection nears...the 5.0L was further down the perfection line...if you catch my drift...
Speeds8erM-1 said:I have known and been around enough of both, personally been involved with their mods, times, street races enough, thats why I posted averages. I could just as easily post all the bad running combos from each side.
There have been HUNDREDS of people come and go in our group over the years, this is a military area.
How is the 5.0 getting tricks? Not my fault the 4.6 comes with a non belt driven smog pump that it cant take off to pick up power, not my fault a 4.6 cant turn a distributor and pick up power (even though one of the 03's I posted about DOES have the timing modded with a custom tune). You would think for something so perfect it wouldnt need a smog pump that can be removed from the factory to gain power and wouldnt need an easy way to turn the timing. Guess those 5.0's are faster than people thought when in the hands of people that arent total morons.
If the 4.6 came with the smog from the factory and you removed it, it wouldnt be any faster than they already are.
Speeds8erM-1 said:The 97 GT I posted about raced the 93 Notch the other night from a 40 roll and it was horrible. The notch has more mods but it was horrible. No video though.
5spd GT said:Actually since it is nearer to perfection, it doesn't need "tricks" to make fixing and tuning it easier...it already is more evolved in that respect
It would be by a little bit...it wouldnt' hurt it for sure, and barely help it. Dyno gains of 3-5rwhp on the 5.0L. That adds up, unlike what you have been saying.
You get convienent amnesia to much
5spd GT said:5mph difference is horrible...yikes...I wonder what 10mph difference is...outrageous...or better yet a 20mph difference must be off the map
So far we got 2-3mph is owned:rofl:
Speeds8erM-1 said:4.6 needs a crutch apparently. The 5.0 took his off, guess the factory just left him with an easier car to make faster instead of compromises.
Speeds8erM-1 said:What happened to make the 5 MPH difference? Ah yes, the 5.0 Fox Body is faster than the NEWER more high tech 4.6 97 GT.
2-3 MPH is pretty bad from a roll at times, 5 MPH is much worse and it was, badly. 97 GT got the jump, still was around 4-5 cars back at 100 from a 40 roll. Only a 60 MPH spread, 97 GT got the jump and still was further back and constantly getting pulled hard.
Speeds8erM-1 said:If you think 4-5 cars in a 60 MPH spread isnt bad then you havent raced enough. Could have taken them to 140 and it might have been 12 cars. Especially somebody getting the hit in a short race. Thats not a stock 97 GT either.
NPI or PI, the notch was victorious the other night. Hmmm?
matt93notch said:4-5 car lengths is pretty bad buddy!
Well, there was a '00 Trans Am 6spd, exhaust, lid, filter, some free mods that ran a best of 9.67@78mphSpeeds8erM-1 said:So every car I mentioned here would run even faster at your track/weather because I have seen a bunch and known a bunch, even personally driven a slightly modded one down the track. 9.4-9.5@75-76 MPH is the average of around 6-8 cars around here at the same tracks. 5 Speed cars usually run 9.1-9.2's@77-78. Some of those auto cars even had exhuast, or filter, or pulleys. Stock geared.
Your friend running a 9.5 needs to retire or fix his car. Never seen a 5 speed one that slow unless the driver trys to make a pass with a bag over his head.
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