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CarMichael Angelo

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MustangIIMatt said:
It started as a fox build.
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Give it time...itll be a Fox build again.
 
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CarMichael Angelo said:
Give it time...itll be a Fox build again.
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.....perhaps with a Supercoupe engine next?
 

CarMichael Angelo

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7991LXnSHO said:
He’s going to do what he wants with the build, so why rain on his enthusiasm?
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Always somebody who goes running to the teacher...

* Misses Ryan!, Misses Ryan! Mike and a bunch a mean kids are kickin sand on poor little Drew's science project...And, and, I'm so tellin'!!!.
 
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CarMichael Angelo

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Where is he anyway. Cause we just

"Modified" his thread.
 
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CarMichael Angelo said:
Always somebody who goes running to the teacher...

* Misses Ryan!, Misses Ryan! Mike and a bunch a mean kids are kickin sand on poor little Drew's science project...And, and, I'm so tellin'!!!.
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You have already busted the OP’s chops so many times I figured it was time to give it up and help him follow in your footsteps with an “Almost a Mustang.”

Besides, among other things on my resume, I AM The Teacher. :lcoff:
I probably still have detention slips if needed.
 
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droopie85gt

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CarMichael Angelo said:
During the past 3 weeks while i’ve had an iron mask on, I’ve occasionally looked in on this thread.
My neck hurts from all of the forehead slapping and head shaking i’ve been doing.

How you went from a full tilt t-4 banger that probably would come apart before it ever saw 500 hp, to this thing boggles the mind.
And......despite the few that have went to LS town here before who have testified to the fact that they aren’t as cheap or as durable as you seem to think they are leaves me wondering what you’re smoking.

Id understand if a turbo wasn’t in the mix. I said that before while you were spending money on trying to make that 4 banger fast past the point of consistency instead of just leaving it all 100hp N/A n sht. Just think of how great it would be to actually take home bracket racing glory, trophies and cash prizes in a car that ran a dead repeatable 20 Oh quarter mile?

An opponent could catch up on world news, have a snack, and run a race all while you stood on the gas pedal as hard as you could trying to get the PBF to the eventual end of the quarter.

But nooooo,....you had to go off and try to milk a pig.

* This is my disclaimer where I show that I’m not being inconsiderate, self serving, and an obnoxious prick...

”But it is your car after all,...so you do you.”

* Now,...where was I???.....Oh yeah, busting your balls....I digress.

So,..in mid step, you decide to stop pissing in the wind and buy a more mainstream power plant to power your bracket bomber, and again,...left to its own power curve, and considering that there is no bottom reference standard when campaigning a bracket car, an LS makes for a perfect 350hp/ 4000 stall/TB/PG/12.00 1/4 mile car..

But noooooo,....you think adding a turbo or two will somehow make for a better combo, and ignoring conventional wisdom think it’ll live with stock hyper-eutectic pistons, and stock powdered metal rods. Anndd..if it breaks,..you’ll just buy another JY sweetie and swap it in.

Even that Sloppy Mechanic dude is replacing stuff internally to keep that junk alive, and it’s more than just a set of head gaskets.

You do know that when sht breaks in a turbo combo, whatever woulda went out an exhaust port now went straight into your chinee turbo. If your lucky, maybe the turbo will spit up an impeller blade or two, and may even make it full circle, and get eaten by a valve.

Dude,..for the sake of all things that make sense, if you’re gonna bracket race it doesn’t it make sense that faster equates to unreliable, and unreliable equates to inconsistent. And for those classes that do run faster, doesn’t it make sense that they aren’t expecting that to happen consistently with a chinee turbo slapped on a 100k mile stocker with a set of backwards facing cast iron exhaust manifolds?

If you’re going to run the LS, than more power to ya,..it’ll be an easy 400reliable HP, and you can leave the ring end gap alone. Just don’t lose focus of the greater good.

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Did you unquit again?

I've been out of town for work.
 

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droopie85gt said:
Did you unquit again?

I've been out of town for work.
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Duh... Pfft work ain't no excuse to let others derail your thread.

For a minute there we thought you may have done something crazy like go drinking at a gay bar and bring an LS home
 

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a91what said:
Duh... Pfft work ain't no excuse to let others derail your thread.

For a minute there we thought you may have done something crazy like go drinking at a gay bar and bring an LS home
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Does he need to go back to that bar and grab a tranny
can't believe I typed that
 
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wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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MustangIIMatt said:
Speaking of, whatever happened to @kiddiccarus ?
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Did you lose him again???
It was your turn to watch him
So hard to find good help
 

CarMichael Angelo

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droopie85gt said:
Did you unquit again?

I've been out of town for work.
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I didn’t “ quit”.

When I tried to open the door one day, somebody had changed the locks.
 
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CarMichael Angelo

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slow84lx said:
.....perhaps with a Supercoupe engine next?
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Nope...He’s really a closet Buick Guy..

You’d think somebody that had it that bad for a car brand chosen by 2 outta 3 octogenarians as the car that they'd most most likely die in while driving, he’d have sourced a 3.8 out of a regal T type or Grand national.
A smallish engine that might fit the PBF engine bay. That just happens to be built from the factory to tolerate alot of boost.

That way He could have his spooly boy cake and eat it too. All without having to sweep up all of the broken LS junk off of the track when he decides that more boost is the fix for a tired ass engine.
 
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moar boost......
 

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CarMichael Angelo said:
I didn’t “ quit”.

When I tried to open the door one day, somebody had changed the locks.
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Did your kindergarten report card read, Doesn't play well with others.

CarMichael Angelo said:
Nope...He’s really a closet Buick Guy..

You’d think somebody that had it that bad for a car brand chosen by 2 outta 3 octogenarians as the car that they'd most most likely die in while driving, he’d have sourced a 3.8 out of a regal T type or Grand national.
A smallish engine that might fit the PBF engine bay. That just happens to be built from the factory to tolerate alot of boost.

That way He could have his spooly boy cake and eat it too. All without having to sweep up all of the broken LS junk off of the track when he decides that more boost is the fix for a tired ass engine.
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I've got plenty of brooms in the garage.
 
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CarMichael Angelo said:
Always somebody who goes running to the teacher...

* Misses Ryan!, Misses Ryan! Mike and a bunch a mean kids are kickin sand on poor little Drew's science project...And, and, I'm so tellin'!!!.
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This cat has the appropriate response.
 
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droopie85gt

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I can already see I hate working on sheet metal. Hopefully now that I bought a die grinder with a 2" roloc or quick change hub, I will have better control than a 4.5" grinder or flap wheel. Right now it is weld, grind, see holes, take welder and make holes bigger, then glob up weld to fill hole in, then grind glob down, then try to fill in the hole again, rinse, repeat, repeat, repeat.
 
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nickyb said:
Gotta agree with the grinch( mike) , if bracket racing is what you want then keep it simple .A few years back,here in Vegas there was a new vw bettlebug that won every bracket race the whole dam season.He left in drive and just floored it every race.
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How have we come this far without a "FUN!" smiley?
 

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I’m a non biased car guy .

View: https://youtu.be/34ZL4Hyd8EI
 

TOOLOW91

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View: https://youtu.be/D3uhyiv-SoA
 
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CarMichael Angelo

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TOOLOW91 said:
View: https://youtu.be/D3uhyiv-SoA
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That’s impressive. And looks to be built as a grudge car.
But let’s call it like it is. That car looks to be juuusssttt a little bit more on the x275/ whatever the “street legal” class is called nowadays, and aside from the JY ( supposedly) bottom end, is every bit of a $30k+, 25.-?? chassis etc, etc.
( the guy reaches up and puts his hand on the chute lever while one handing the wheel for the duration of high gear and 160 mph..it is about as perfect a chassis tune as it comes. And when there’s all that obvious money surrounding that “ JY engine”, I’ll have to reserve judgement on just how “JY” that engine actually is.

Just sit and think about it..Even if the engines are as cheap as they supposedly are.
Will it go that fast for a season?
If it will, then all I can say is
If it will, and being able to count on a $1000.00 JY engine w/150k internals holding up through repeated tuning passes, getting it dialed in, and then once tuned, how many full pulls can be counted on to last after that?

Anybody who knows what’s happening here is so they can say they hold the record for the fastest 4.8 jy engine, and the questions I’ve posed above don’t count in that hunt.

Heres my point..
( for the rest of the world that isn’t looking for the 4.8 record, and instead....maybe thinking about running one....Ohhh,...say....in a bracket car.)

If Chevrolet has figured out how to build Gods gift to down and dirty drag racing w/o so much as a ever loosening an oil pan bolt..Why is there an aftermarket for LS engines?

What kind of bone head buys forged internals for these things when ( according to the vid above) they don’t need to?

Maybe because swapping out broke assed JY engines gets old after the third or forth time.
 
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CarMichael Angelo said:
That’s impressive. And looks to be built as a grudge car.
But let’s call it like it is. That car looks to be juuusssttt a little bit more on the x275/ whatever the “street legal” class is called nowadays, and aside from the JY ( supposedly) bottom end, is every bit of a $30k+, 25.-?? chassis etc, etc.
( the guy reaches up and puts his hand on the chute lever while one handing the wheel for the duration of high gear and 160 mph..it is about as perfect a chassis tune as it comes. And when there’s all that obvious money surrounding that “ JY engine”, I’ll have to reserve judgement on just how “JY” that engine actually is.

Just sit and think about it..Even if the engines are as cheap as they supposedly are.
Will it go that fast for a season?
If it will, then all I can say is
If it will, and being able to count on a $1000.00 JY engine w/150k internals holding up through repeated tuning passes, getting it dialed in, and then once tuned, how many full pulls can be counted on to last after that?

Anybody who knows what’s happening here is so they can say they hold the record for the fastest 4.8 jy engine, and the questions I’ve posed above don’t count in that hunt.

Heres my point..
( for the rest of the world that isn’t looking for the 4.8 record, and instead....maybe thinking about running one....Ohhh,...say....in a bracket car.)

If Chevrolet has figured out how to build Gods gift to down and dirty drag racing w/o so much as a ever loosening an oil pan bolt..Why is there an aftermarket for LS engines?

What kind of bone head buys forged internals for these things when ( according to the vid above) they don’t need to?

Maybe because swapping out broke assed JY engines gets old after the third or forth time.
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In a street car at 6-800 hp I have seen them last seasons at a time . It’s all in the tune like anything else . Starting with 6 bolt mains put you way head of the game with keeping things in place .

Believe me I know what happens in anything Max effort but these things are pretty damn durable . Price is whatever because I see prices all over . Take a ls7 for instance . Headers , ported stock heads , rpm b4 cam , msd Mamo ported intake . Makes 671 / 577 NA on pump gas . They usually average 620-650 with that stuff . How can you beat that NA from a stock bottom end

Granted this isn’t an ls7 but my point is they are killer engines .

Ls3 heads flow over 300 on the intake side at .600 lift for comparison . My TEA 20511r Cnc heads flow 321 at the same lift . Case in point they are impressive for what they are .

hell if I was doing it again I’d build a 5 or 6 speed setup with a 408 or 416 LS 11:1 on pump gas . It would make over 600 at the tire . Then hit it with 150-200 for the track or some heavy street runs .

My buddy has a stock alum block 416 with mast heads . Cam , carb car . Runs on pump has . 79 slant back heavy cutlass . His dad at 70 years old has been a lazy 9.98 on 125 shot in its setup to take 300 . The car can drive anywhere . It’s just all about what you want to do .
 
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