how to do (burnout & powershift)

MikeZ28 said:
the results of a missed 2-3 powershift with you going back into first and letting the clutch out is... really really hard bucking while the PCM tries too bring the rpms down from and the engine is way past the limiter. this happend too me once not fun. i still can not belive the 4.6 survived that one. then ran it's best time a few days later.
That's about the best you could hope to happen. I had a picture posted a while back of my brand new stock clutch I had in my previous Mustang that literally disintegrated when I went for 3rd one time and got first. Sometimes $h!t happens. :(
 
You're all acting like you've never been in this guy's situation before, lighten up. Its his first time at the track and of course everyone's first time, being nervous is normal. There are a ton of people looking at you, your trying to do your best to impress and not look like a tool.

My advice (besides what i already said) is to find yourself and empty parking lot where you know you won't get bothered and give it a shot.

If your running stock tires, I wouldn't even bother with a burnout at the track. Lower your tire pressure to about 20 psi. When you're ready to run, roll into the burnout box, about half way through, rev it up to about 4k rpm, dump the clutch and lay a couple feet of rubber. Using this method is better because you don't get the eraser effect. If you wondering what the eraser effect is, grab a pencil and rub the eraser over the same spot for awhile, then run your finger over the little balls of rubber. Doing a burnout on street tires does the same thing, makes little rubber balls form, and decreases traction.


And one other thing I (and all these other critics) never bothered to mencion, be sure to TURN OFF the traction control.
 
Mstg05 said:
You're all acting like you've never been in this guy's situation before, lighten up. Its his first time at the track and of course everyone's first time, being nervous is normal. There are a ton of people looking at you, your trying to do your best to impress and not look like a tool.

My advice (besides what i already said) is to find yourself and empty parking lot where you know you won't get bothered and give it a shot.

If your running stock tires, I wouldn't even bother with a burnout at the track. Lower your tire pressure to about 20 psi. When you're ready to run, roll into the burnout box, about half way through, rev it up to about 4k rpm, dump the clutch and lay a couple feet of rubber. Using this method is better because you don't get the eraser effect. If you wondering what the eraser effect is, grab a pencil and rub the eraser over the same spot for awhile, then run your finger over the little balls of rubber. Doing a burnout on street tires does the same thing, makes little rubber balls form, and decreases traction.


And one other thing I (and all these other critics) never bothered to mencion, be sure to TURN OFF the traction control.


Did you miss the fact the original poster has almost 500rwhp in a stock suspension vert and absolutely no idea of how to drive car at the track?



Jay
 
Gearbanger 101 said:
That's about the best you could hope to happen. I had a picture posted a while back of my brand new stock clutch I had in my previous Mustang that literally disintegrated when I went for 3rd one time and got first. Sometimes $h!t happens. :(


yeah that one scared the crap out of me. in a pushrod motor like a LS-1 that may have bent some pushrods.
 
yea you guys need to relax, it doesnt really matter how fast he makes his car. just because he cant do a burn out dont mean hes a bad driver.

anyone of us can get in an accident if we are not careful. even if we are careful, it still happens when others dont par att. because they are on their cell phone in their slow suv.

careful>fast
 
Easiest way to do a burn out is to buy yourself a line lock :D. Other than that, the tips given above more than show you how to.
Powershifting, I wouldnt risk that either. Just practice getting your shifts down quicker. I know several guys that can quick shift just as fast as other people can power shift. Dont expect amazing results your first time at the track, just get used to the feel of everything and be safe about it.
Im not even going to attempt a tip at launching lol, my best 60' is a 2.10. Just go and have fun with it, just above all be safe about it, and post some slips later and let us know how you did.
 
Powershifting is for the guys who KNOW how to drive, and have a natural gift for shifting. Practice can help but if your natural body reflex is a little slow you will never get it right, and just tear something up. I miss my 91 GT for this reason nothing better than going thru first,second,third, and fourth without lifting the gas :D (12.30 1/4 7.96 1/8). If you are a real drag racer you know exactly what I mean. If you can't do it, don't worry about it just drive the best you can, and enjoy it that's what it's all about anyway. But if you can it is a nice advantage over the other drivers, wouldn't you say. :D
 
JayC said:
Did you miss the fact the original poster has almost 500rwhp in a stock suspension vert and absolutely no idea of how to drive car at the track?



Jay

And what does that have to do with anything? So what if his beginner car is a 120 hp 4 cyl or a 500hp 8 cyl. Like I said, gotta start somewhere, not his fault he has good taste.
 
98blackmagic said:
Powershifting is for the guys who KNOW how to drive, and have a natural gift for shifting

this is true. and even if you can do it. you will miss at somepoint. anybody who says different is a liar. blackmagic is right grabbing 3 gears without lifting is the most fun i have had with my pants on.

so i would'nt even try and see if you can do it unless you don't mind paying for a tranny.
 
JayC said:
The fact you even ask is disturbing :notnice:


Jay
Don't be a snob Jay. So what if his first Mustang is faster than most of our current Mustangs with bolt-ons and 3-years worth of work and 10-years-worth of driving behind them. Sure, he may put it into a guard rail with the first dump of the clutch....or he may gain a healthy respect as to what a RWD V8 with 500hp is all about. One of my first vehicles was a tail happy '85 Ford Ranger with a 5.0L HO transplant. You learn real quick to respect the power, or you just end up finding out the hard way. :(
 
Gearbanger 101 said:
Don't be a snob Jay. So what if his first Mustang is faster than most of our current Mustangs with bolt-ons and 3-years worth of work and 10-years-worth of driving behind them. Sure, he may put it into a guard rail with the first dump of the clutch....or he may gain a healthy respect as to what a RWD V8 with 500hp is all about. One of my first vehicles was a tail happy '85 Ford Ranger with a 5.0L HO transplant. You learn real quick to respect the power, or you just end up finding out the hard way. :(

Yeah well i think Jay was trying to prevent him from finding out the hard way with some constructive criticism.
 
UDTBadkarma said:
Yeah well i think Jay was trying to prevent him from finding out the hard way with some constructive criticism.
Hey, I'm all for constructive criticism. I've been known to dish out my fair share myself (whether asked to, or not ;)), but there's a fine line between constructive criticism and undue badgering and name calling. Besides.....lets face it....we've all had to find out the hard way sooner or later. I remember one of my first mods was Spitfire spark plugs back in the day when they were the in-thing. Those who knew better tried to convince me otherwise, but I wouldn't have any of it. The manufacturer said 20hp and by god that's what I was convinced I would get. All I got was a bunch of expensive spark plugs and a few points and snickers when I tried to convince people they made a difference. Live and learn, I guess? :D
 
Gearbanger 101 said:
Hey, I'm all for constructive criticism. I've been known to dish out my fair share myself (whether asked to, or not ;)), but there's a fine line between constructive criticism and undue badgering and name calling. Besides.....lets face it....we've all had to find out the hard way sooner or later. I remember one of my first mods was Spitfire spark plugs back in the day when they were the in-thing. Those who knew better tried to convince me otherwise, but I wouldn't have any of it. The manufacturer said 20hp and by god that's what I was convinced I would get. All I got was a bunch of expensive spark plugs and a few points and snickers when I tried to convince people they made a difference. Live and learn, I guess? :D


very true. we have all made mistakes.
 
Gearbanger 101 said:
Hey, I'm all for constructive criticism. I've been known to dish out my fair share myself (whether asked to, or not ;)), but there's a fine line between constructive criticism and undue badgering and name calling. Besides.....lets face it....we've all had to find out the hard way sooner or later. I remember one of my first mods was Spitfire spark plugs back in the day when they were the in-thing. Those who knew better tried to convince me otherwise, but I wouldn't have any of it. The manufacturer said 20hp and by god that's what I was convinced I would get. All I got was a bunch of expensive spark plugs and a few points and snickers when I tried to convince people they made a difference. Live and learn, I guess? :D

Very few people get killed choosing the wrong sparkplugs. :D Point is ....ANYONE with a 500rwhp car should take it very easy and learn to drive :flag:


Jay



Jay