Progress Thread King Cobra Build in Oregon

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You'll have to be careful doing that, the retainer on the transmission is what locates it in the bellhousing. It's commonplace to have the retainer machined to fit the bell housing. It takes around .020" or so for it to fit. A competent machine shop should be able to take care of that rather quickly.
 
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I feel like I am always raining on your parade. I really don't mean to. I just want to help avoid my mistakes. Which are numerous.

The bearing retainer acts as a dowel pin so to speak to keep trans aligned with the bell. I recommend having it turned down by a machine shop if you stick with the aluminum one. Keep in mind it is considered a weak point on the t5. One of the first things done to beef up a t5 is switching to a steel retainer. I had my first one turned down by the machine shop. When I purchased the new t5 from MDl they included a steel one. When I rebuilt my old t5 I used a new steel one from MDL. They use oem style steel which are turned down to fit our bell. I am leery of recommending them but they are the only place to get off the self parts for us.

If you get a new one pick up a shim kit as well. You should re-shim the trans when replacing it.

I don't remember the weight difference but MDL's flywheel is noticably lighter. I want to say oem is 40ish lbs and the mdl is 25ish lbs.
 
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No worries, we can use the rain out here.......

The bell housing still does not fit the trans input shaft thingie thru the big hole. So, I have taken the bell housing to the machine shop and Andy said he has a T-5 and will make sure it fits. Back to sanding the prepping the body for paint. Hope to have the housing back on Wednesday.

I really appreciate all the advise/information I get from this site. Very helpful.

Going to see Jay Leno this weekend at a local casino. I will be wearing my "God made Tesla's so Mustang have more gas" T-shirt. Wife will be wearing her same shirt with "MoPar"....................I will mention I am working on a 1978 Mustang 2 King Cobra..........
 
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I think there's 2 schools of thought with the bell housing/bearing retainer issue. T5 bearing retainers are relatively abundant and easy to get, so machining those to fit is probably the easier of the 2 choices. There's a second reason for that, too; they're easy to chuck up in a lathe and buzz a few thousandths off of the outer diameter. On the other hand, how many people will step up and restore a MII? If you're never going to be concerned with restoring it to original, setting up and boring the retainer hole on the bell housing makes it easier to swap transmissions and/or bearing retainers if the situation ever arises, making repair and maintenance a lot easier. All of that being said, the bell housings aren't being made anymore and there are a limited number of them. So, if it's ever needed to be used with the old RAD transmission it will be useless UNLESS someone does some work to the mating pieces again. I can only see that being a purist, though - and really, how many of those types are there out there?

I think it boils down to being a personal preference. If I had to do it all over again, I think I'd have set up my bell housing and made it work that way.
 

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I am back.... Bell housing is still at the machine shop. Seems they forgot to work on it. Been sanding and getting most of the body ready for paint. Planning on painting Wednesday. Prepping and getting work area ready tomorrow. Almost had the sanding ready until I got the hood out again and found a bunch of spots not sanded......Bad news. Seems the guy who was taking the black 75 Mustang off my hands has back off. Well his wife told him he is not getting the Mustang. thought I had the engine and transmission sold but that was cancelled today......So, while doing gardening getting ready to have the house painted, I came up with a great idea...............Well a pretty good idea. Since I can't find a new owner for the 75 I am going to cut the back seat area off and make a couch/trailer. figure to cut the back seat off keeping the trunk attached along with rear springs I will have this dipped and paint it. As the photos I have shown the seats are in really good condition, I can keep them just the way the are. OR I have another back seat and new back seat covers to install. So, depending on the color I paint the rear area I can change seats. REALLY would like to paint candy apple red...........since I was talked out of doing the Mustang. Plus I will only need a pint of paint...............or to match my cobra I will do candy apple yellow, using the black seats. If there is anyone out this way that needs a 75 ii coupe let me know.

Figure I can take this to shows and use the trunk as storage. I will use the same style rims as on the cobra since I now have two sets. That's if for now.
 

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Unhappy update. Well I got the yellow done. Then started on the clear. got the passenger side done and the hood and part of the fender. Ran out of clear, reloaded and began again. I noticed big blobs of clear. Though I was not covering properly, as it looked like a "dry" spot. So ran gun over area on left door, fender and hood. It got worse, then the paint just stopped flowing..................check around and found I had no air......... Check wall filter, no pressure. Went out to my air compressor and the motor was running but not the compressor..............found bell pulley on motor fell off.............make a long story even longer, got a new key, set screws and did all kinds of stuff. Pulley keeps coming off and the belt keeps getting thrown. So, the last thing that can be causing this is a week belt. So, tomorrow off to a supplier for a new belt. I get to sand the clear down to remove the heavy spots..................But I did get the bell housing back from the machine shop. Engine goes in Wednesday.
 
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Got the yellow on and did the clear. Had a few runs but working on those. Not bad. Waiting for my air compressor motor to return from the shop. did the primer on the replacement rear hatch.

Heading for week cruise to Alaska tomorrow. Wife makes me go on these.
 

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At last, the engine/trans is installed. Got that done Saturday. Exhaust manifolds were powder coated. Came out a bit too silver, but should look good.

Ordering engine parts; roller arms, lifters and push rods when I get back from cruise. I do have new tall valve covers. These just keep junk from falling in......Need to have drive shaft shortened.
 

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