RS200 said:A base model Civic weighs in around 2100lbs, depending on the year. Don't feel ashamed..someone will always be faster.
Swarzkopf said:Exactly...
Anyway, I'm done defending imports here. Don't get the wrong impression- my intent is that you guys don't go out there thinking that your 5.0 can't be beat, act like a cocky dick, and then get smoked. It makes us all look stupid.
I'll always root for the Mustang. Some of you guys just need to get to know your enemy a little better.
Swarzkopf said:O R L Y?
That's a real naive statement. You're the type that the local street racers love to take money from.
Yeah, it takes money to make anything fast...but it's pretty cheap and easy to make a DSM, 3000GT, WRX, EVO, or any of the factory turbo imports WAY faster than any stock GT Mustang.
Buddy of mine went 12.39 in a 94 GSX with what I believe was a stock motor and a bigger turbo/intercooler/injectors combo he scraped together for real cheap...another friend is expecting mid-12s this year from his STI with simple bolt-ons.
It takes alot of money, time, and effort to make a Civic fast...but all imports aren't Civics.
1SLO306 said:but the good thig is that we dont need any powersadders to make ours fast. almost every import running 12's-13's have nos, or a turbo.
give me a stock gt, stock bore, h/c/i, gears, clutch, bolt ons, slicks
then give me a stock civic do the same work basicly
which one u think would win
gcwh02 said:Yea definately. I never seen im my lifetime a fast import without a power adder. Not sure if it exists, it might though. If they want to run good times they turn the boost up to 30 psi and hope for the best.
gcwh02 said:Yea definately. I never seen im my lifetime a fast import without a power adder. Not sure if it exists, it might though. If they want to run good times they turn the boost up to 30 psi and hope for the best.
Lyncher said:very true...just out of curiosity how come there arent any foxes running around with that kinda boost, the most i really see is like 18 but if the imports can make good power with a 4 cyl or 6 cyl we could make INSANE power with a v8!
poneypower89 said:well.. air volume needed to make 25psi on 1.8l is minute when comparing the air volume needed to make that with a 5.0l. So the size of the turbo would have to be fairly large.
On top of that, 25 psi on a 5.0 would be pusing 800+ hp easily with a turbo... actually much much more... that kind of HP would require a very expensive setup. IE dart block, expensive programmer, fuel set-up etc.
kr8zstang said:The imports you really need to look out for are mid 80's to early 90's turbos. Supras, 300zx(z31), Conquests, 323gtx, Rx-7 turbo II, etc. They are cheap, most have pretty tough motors that can take higher psi without much supporting mods. I had an 85 300zx turbo i bought for 1500. 165,000 miles and ran like new. Put on 3" straight exhaust, K&N filter, ROM burn. Less than $2000 in it total and put down 222 to the wheels with a bad clutch. Walked a few 5.0's and of course some early 4.6's that cost alot more than $2000. Beat the crap out of every civic I came across.Had terrible rear suspension, so stangs would beat me off the line but i could track em down. But i do like my 5.0 better. Sumthin bout that 5.0 i love.
poneypower89 said:2g's for 222 hp to the wheelsYep, I really need to look out for those guys...
kr8zstang said:2 g's For the price of the car and all mods together. If it was 2g's for mod's it woulda laid down 400.
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