I could have sworn somewhere in this thread you had your combination posted? I will double check and look because it seems like if I didn't see it or I hadn't see it already I would have asked you what your setup was but in case I don't, what is your cam specs and what heads are you running?I've made a few updates, and strapped it on the chassis dyno.
First, some new wheels and tires. The Michelin tires ended up running much narrower than anticipated, so the 285s are moving up to the front 9.5" wheels, and I have 315s on order for the rear 10.5" wheels.
The Super Victor intake with 90° elbow and 90mm throttle body really killed low end torque, and also made low rpm drivability not so great.
I ended up going with a Victor EFI intake and an 80mm Accufab TB. I knew I was trading off that high RPM horsepower, but didn't realize just how much until last Friday on the dyno. I modified a BBK catted H pipe to fit my Mac longtubes, and replaced the now too quiet Magnaflows with Jones Full Boar mufflers. I actually love the sound, and lack of fuel smell from the exhaust.
I have to upload the vid to YouTube, so bear with me. I was expecting 430-450 at the tire based on 567 at the crank (with the old intake setup) on the engine dyno. I was slightly let down only hitting 402. Even more so seeing the power drop off at 6000 RPM, where it was still climbing at 6700 with the old intake setup. Needless to say, E85 and a Vortech are in the cards for next year.
Is a wide band need it or is that just something you want? To be honest I'm not even familiar of exactly what the heck exactly a wide band is I've never researched it and off the top of my head I would think that it would probably be something to check the air fuel ratio and to check other specs?It's not bad. It plugs right in where the stock computer was. You need a vacuum line plumbed into the car as the MAP sensor is built into the MS2 versus the stock MAP sensor being under the hood. For the wideband, you just pin a power and a ground off the MS2 options port, and thats it. Mine were pins 25 and 26, but not sure I'd the Fox version is different or not.
I have a Dart block, forged Scat crank (internally balanced), forged H beam rods, Bullet forged pistons from Vigilante, Ed Curtis cam, AFR 205 heads, Morel linked hydraulic lifters, hardened pushrods, 1.6 roller rockers, and the Edelbrock Victor EFI intake, and 80 mm Accufab throttle body. 1 3/4" Mack longtubes, 2.5" Prochamber, and 2.5" cat back. My rods and pistons are not lightweight, and I've learned that does rob power. After my engine refresh, I had the rings gapped for boost, and my compression is 11.2:1. I do plan on a Vortech at some point, but for now its N/A and on E85.I could have sworn also you told me your combination and so I just went back through this thread and I'm going to go off of what I think. Okay so you had the Victor EFI set up with a 90 mm elbow that you didn't like the way it drive and you said that a tune with e85 and the blower was in the works and that also you were going to go with either an Edelbrock intake or the TFS R not the box.
Then I read a little bit later where you had a fresh engine done and the tune with e85 and got your AC going matched up with the MS2. So yeah when you get a minute tell me exactly what setup you have right now heads intake cam blower or no blower, and hp/tq numbers? Also would be good to see a pic of your engine. I'm thinking about keeping the elbow setup on my I'm not going to necessarily go to a fox throttle body
Man those are some great numbers and I'm with you about for the street, that's all I need. Do they still make the victory EFI intake?I have a Dart block, forged Scat crank (internally balanced), forged H beam rods, Bullet forged pistons from Vigilante, Ed Curtis cam, AFR 205 heads, Morel linked hydraulic lifters, hardened pushrods, 1.6 roller rockers, and the Edelbrock Victor EFI intake, and 80 mm Accufab throttle body. 1 3/4" Mack longtubes, 2.5" Prochamber, and 2.5" cat back. My rods and pistons are not lightweight, and I've learned that does rob power. After my engine refresh, I had the rings gapped for boost, and my compression is 11.2:1. I do plan on a Vortech at some point, but for now its N/A and on E85.
Finally just made it back to the dyno today where it made 456 rwhp, and 419 rwtq. As you can see in the graph, the power drops off at 6300, because of the Victor EFI intake. With the Super Victor and elbow it would make more power at higher RPM, but when are you running above 6300 on the street just daily driving? To each their own, but i like my torque curve for the street.
I think the Victor EFI is the shortest runner 302 based EFI intake with the exception of a carb style with an elbow. So the Systemax 2 or Performer 2 would choke it even more up high. Not sure if they would help torque or not. I suppose a lot of it depends on cam specs. That is a subject I know next to nothing about.Man those are some great numbers and I'm with you about for the street, that's all I need. Do they still make the victory EFI intake?
You probably could have made similar numbers with a systemx2 or performer 2, or no?
Oh I see. Do they still even make the victory EFI?I think the Victor EFI is the shortest runner 302 based EFI intake with the exception of a carb style with an elbow. So the Systemax 2 or Performer 2 would choke it even more up high. Not sure if they would help torque or not. I suppose a lot of it depends on cam specs. That is a subject I know next to nothing about.
Trust me, I looked into a Harrop set up. $$$$$$$$$$$...$$$$$$. $$$$. My bank account says no. Well, more like my wife says no.
Trust me, I looked into a Harrop set up. $$$$$$$$$$$...$$$$$$. $$$$. My bank account says no. Well, more like my wife says no.
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