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KZGUNS

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I think I’m gonna try to route the heater hoses through the fender. Also something just dawned on me, does the body of the ect sensor need to be grounded?
 

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No. The sensor ground is in the wiring itself.

if it was a 1 wire setup it would need to be grounded
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
No. The sensor ground is in the wiring itself.

if it was a 1 wire setup it would need to be grounded
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Kinda what I thought but wasn’t sure and then convinced myself otherwise LOL.
 

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KZ, if you're running into problems getting a standard temp across the intake, let Steve know. He knows how to get a hold of me. I don't know how low I can get my cerakote oven down to, but am willing to give it a try. Or, you could always just cerakote it and not worry.
 
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rdharper02 said:
KZ, if you're running into problems getting a standard temp across the intake, let Steve know. He knows how to get a hold of me. I don't know how low I can get my cerakote oven down to, but am willing to give it a try. Or, you could always just cerakote it and not worry.
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Thanks! I’ll probably just roll with this for now till summer. Who knows if I’ll need to make any changes anyway. I didn’t think about cerakoting. I’ve sprayed many firearms with it but not the bake on finish I think I use H series. Can’t believe I didn’t think of it.
 

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Looks like it will work out just fine. For the air temp sensor I highly suggest using a gm open element... they have a much faster response rate and IMO are more accurate.
 
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a91what said:
Looks like it will work out just fine. For the air temp sensor I highly suggest using a gm open element... they have a much faster response rate and IMO are more accurate.
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Are they the same thread size as the Ford sensor?
 

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I’m seeing they don’t recamend mounting the GM sensor in the intake due to heat soak. Doesn’t that defeat the purpose if you aren’t reading intake temps? Or is there a setting in ms to compensate this?
 

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Lol. Basically yes, the mat air density curve and blend curve. They are already tuned for that application however and should not need to be touched. I monitor intake temps and ambient temps fwiw
 
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a91what said:
Lol. Basically yes, the mat air density curve and blend curve. They are already tuned for that application however and should not need to be touched. I monitor intake temps and ambient temps fwiw
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Ok. I’ll pick up the GM sensor and swap out the Ford one. I do recall thinking the current sensor was a bit slow. I felt the change in temp especially when I know water/meth is being injected was delayed by a few seconds!
 

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Heat soak is a perceived issue.. it just has to be accounted for in the tune
 
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KZGUNS said:
Thanks! I’ll probably just roll with this for now till summer. Who knows if I’ll need to make any changes anyway. I didn’t think about cerakoting. I’ve sprayed many firearms with it but not the bake on finish I think I use H series. Can’t believe I didn’t think of it.
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Oddly enough, I don't consider it enough myself. I'm stuck on wrinkle black, or straight VHT. Sad considering the H coat was originally intended for aviation and automotive parts.
 
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@a91what which wire is which? Signal return etc...
sensor threaded right in with no issues, actually it fits better than the Ford one since it physically smaller.
 

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KZGUNS said:
@a91what which wire is which? Signal return etc...
sensor threaded right in with no issues, actually it fits better than the Ford one since it physically smaller.
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Dont matter... its basically a resistor that changes value with temperature.
 
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That job was the biggest pain in my a** out of all I’ve done. The heater core was less of a pain.
 

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She’s in! I have a clearance issue with number 8 coil unfortunately. It’s too tight with the cobra booster. I’ll have to come up with a solution for that but everything else looks good.
 

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KZGUNS said:
That job was the biggest pain in my a** out of all I’ve done. The heater core was less of a pain.
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Cobra booster ?
I just did that , I agree bigger pia than I imagined !
 

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Steel1 said:
Cobra booster ?
I just did that , I agree bigger pia than I imagined !
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Ya it was the worst LOL.
 

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Got my old engine on the stand and am planning to do a quick cheap refresh. Bearings and rings and a hone. I’ll keep it for something down he road. Check out #2 main. The rest look like normal wear but this one was about to tell me it was done.
 

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Ordered a new cervini hood and stifflers crossmember today. Gonna drag the car across the street and get it up on the lift and put in the tranny and exhaust
 

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