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Hack · Jun 11, 2004

skywalker said:
In my mind they've already filled that void. Which is a reason I've been advocating increasing the size of our military for a while - China isn't to far from being a grave danger to us.

A lot of good points in this thread. Probably a chat thread, but fun. I just bought a stock rebuild kit, mainly because of the money. I also made my own negative wedge kit for the same reason. Hopefully it will work. So I agree with a lot of what's being said above. I would have liked to get something better, originality doesn't matter to me.

I know this is OT, but I had to reply to the China thing. China is on the brink of becoming capitalist, well ok I should say socialist. They are beginning to make a lot of money there. I'm in the semiconductor industry and a lot of companies are opening fabs in China. China is the new place for really cheap labor, much cheaper than Singapore or even Malaysia.

If the trend continues, very soon China will be making way too much money to go to war with us. I'm really rooting for industry to take off there, because we will become partners - war would be too expensive to be an option. I think China is slowly becoming less of a danger each year.

none67 · Jun 11, 2004

man you americans are paranoid of everything that moves..

dodgestang · Jun 11, 2004

none67 said:
man you americans are paranoid of everything that moves..

If you lived in a country where you can go through drivethrough, buy coffee that says 'hot' on the cup and in the process of driving away and trying to drink it spill it on yourself and then collect millions of dollars in damages from the company that sold the coffee via the court system......you might get a little paranoid too.

dolfan87 · Jun 11, 2004

streetgrande69 said:
mdjay, can you enlighten us on how someone like gram gets a place like mustang depot to carry an item produced @ a home shop?

It's a full shop. My uncle and cousin design and build class 7 unlimited, and trophy off-road trucks.

We are talking building a front suspension that will travel 27" with zero bumpsteer.

I brought them into our "little" world, and it's mainly my cousin and I working on design. We are trying to maintain as much travel, as well as the ability to bring the car down to within a half inch of the fender lip, with 2-3 inches of up travel left in the suspension.

But streetgrande69 has a very valid question open out there, and if you(mdjay) want to contact me via PM to discuss a future venture, please feel free to do so.

Thanks streetgrande69 for looking out for us!!

Gram

skywalker · Jun 12, 2004

DarkBuddha said:
Look, it just matter what the argument is for either the complaint against, or justification for higher prices... There is simply no f***ing way I'm ever gonna pay that kind of money for anything like that! (unless I win the lottery) Maybe the prices may be complete fair for what you get, but that doesn't make it any more affordable.

OT on:

I totally understand where you're coming from. Those evil red commies! I just got back from China and each and every home is equipped with a poster reading "DEATH TO THE AMERICANS" Oh, and I was actually jumped by a bunch of Chinese exchange students when I got back... they pelted me with their computer engineering books and scientific calculators.

[sarcasm off]

Come on now... why is it that we have to build a bigger military just because another country is building its economy? China is becoming more and more western in so many ways that its bordering on CAPITALISM! They've grown a legitimate middle class that is generally pleased with its situation and lifestyle, and they now have disposable income and can purchase cars. All the major car companies (including all the US car makers) are investing large amounts of money and engineering in manufacturing cars for that market. In fact, China is one of the main reasons for the increase in the cost of gas... they're a growing market competing with ours.

Now maybe this is why we assume they're some big threat to our way of life... they're using OUR gas, buying OUR cars, loving OUR entertainment. Hell, I hear there is a McDonalds in Kabul Afganistan. Its as if we must stop the evil spread of this consumerism so that OUR country is still better. Or maybe it means we're all finding some common ground and we all become more alike... Oh no, who will Americans have left to hate if everyone is just like us??? Will we have to hate ourselves???

Bless the USA, and keep our children safe.

Really simple: Taiwan. Taiwan for some odd reason is something that would make the Chinese willing to fight anyone. Well, the Chinese government anyhow.

I don't think anyone there is stupid enough to pick a fight with their biggest trade partner. But someone might be crazy enough? Either or, someone on this planet will dominate economically and militarily. I think it'd be a tie economically because our economies are symbiotic. But I'd be much more comfortable with us dominating militarily - just in case some nut case gets an itch he wants to scratch. It's a hard thing to predict in their fairly closed society. WE had the same issue with the soviets, so we had to have hard intel from the ground to tell us whether or not Kruschev was a wacko and that Gorbachev was a reformer.

DarkBuddha · Jun 12, 2004

(This will be my last OT post on this thread, I promise!)

See, this is the tricky part, because you're right in citing Taiwan as a pivot point for all of this. But the real crux of all of this isn't connected to the old cold war way of things (ideologically). The nature of the world's politics have changed, as they have been in the process of doing since the '60s. No longer is it a simple matter of "someone on this planet will dominate economically and militarily."

The world isn't run by political or philosophical ideologies anymore. Instead, it all revolves around one thing anymore: MONEY. Power isn't held by governments, it is held by major corporations and industries. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, and I suspect we all sorta recognize this. But, what is often lost in this is that the nature of the relationships between countries is now more dependent on the nature of the world's economy. War has to be different now because it has different function now, and a different meaning, which goes back to Taiwan.

Why is Taiwan important? Taiwan is a major center for trade, production, import/export, etc. It is the home of some major corporations and industries. Power is where the money is. No one is gonna nuke that. Gotta love capitalism... the Chinese have sure recognized it.

What you really have to watch is particularly under-developed and depressed regions and countries, as we've seen with the Baltic states and North Korea. These guys have no money, no power, and no hope. All they've got is weapons and no reason not to use them. Now that is a "grave danger".

Anyway, its kinda funny to be talking about this during the week after Reagan died. Its all connected, and given 20 years of hindsight, its clearer than ever. Deficit spending, national debt, the arms race, the Drug War, the depression of Russia and eastern Europe, terrorism, Hussein coming to power, Bin Laden gaining a following and gaining power, environmental issues, nuclear waste issues, big business running the world, the Chinese growing... its all has significant connections to the Reagan administration years. No conspiracy theories, just a simple reading of history. How could it have ever turned out any other way?

streetgrande69 · Jun 12, 2004

DarkBuddha said:
(This will be my last OT post on this thread, I promise!)

QUOTE]

THANK YOU!

mdjay · Jun 12, 2004

Generally speaking, it's all about the name.

We have a small company that started making the motor mounts. But when it comes to suspension, good or bad Grab a Trak, catchy name. Maier Suspension, cool new products and been around for a while. TCP big buss, great designs, expensive, you know the story. Global West, reputable and good stuff, still spendy.

Find a catchy name, those kind of products will sell themselves...

If you can underprice the manufacturers out there with a comparable or better product, you'll win as long as you stay course.

Most companys out there are dead set on margin. It's important to know at what point you are making money. However, volume is where we tend to focus more attention. Basic Supply and Demand economics, lower the price, sales volume goes up. I hate idle inventory...

The deal with TCP products, demand was still very high. Margin was already pretty low.

Jay

dolfan87 said:
It's a full shop. My uncle and cousin design and build class 7 unlimited, and trophy off-road trucks.

We are talking building a front suspension that will travel 27" with zero bumpsteer.

I brought them into our "little" world, and it's mainly my cousin and I working on design. We are trying to maintain as much travel, as well as the ability to bring the car down to within a half inch of the fender lip, with 2-3 inches of up travel left in the suspension.

But streetgrande69 has a very valid question open out there, and if you(mdjay) want to contact me via PM to discuss a future venture, please feel free to do so.

Thanks streetgrande69 for looking out for us!!

Gram

63_Fairlane · Jun 12, 2004

OT

As far as conflict is concerned, the world is just revolving back to the good old days when kings fought over land, water, trees, gold...money, power. The twentieth century is litered with conflict over ideology... Democracy versus Totalitarianism, Capitalism versus Communism.

streetgrande69 · Jun 12, 2004

WHO CARES? START YOUR OWN THREAD.......

63_Fairlane · Jun 12, 2004

My point exactly!

70XR7ConvertCat · Jun 18, 2004

bnickel said:
... i also wonder who they are going to get to supply the power servos for the rack kit, i don't think woodward is going to want to supply them after the letter he wrote about dealing with TCP and saying he didn't want to have any thing to do with classic mustang racks any more. i could be wrong though, we'll see.

By the way, Tony Woodward has worked out an exclusive with Alston's Chassisworks to supply the servo for the TCP power rack as before.

Steve C.

Farls · Jun 18, 2004

Of course we have nothing to fear from China! Just ask anyone from Tibet. Or the Spratly Islands. Or Northern Kashmir.

/sarcasm off

Cbarton · Jun 25, 2004

Hey dolfan87, how goes the progress? I am looking forward to hearing how the setup works as I have a 65 I would love to upgrade........

Chris

dolfan87 · Jun 25, 2004

We should start hard and heavy on the 65-66 next week. It's been a bit hectic around here lately, but the boys are at the races this weekend, and after that it should calm down quite a bit.

Check my "Suspension Update" thread on this page for pics of my system installed on my 70.

Gram

LMan · Jun 25, 2004

Farls said:
Of course we have nothing to fear from China! Just ask anyone from Tibet. Or the Spratly Islands. Or Northern Kashmir.

/sarcasm off

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