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mustangfan1990

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5.0Droptop said:
Please dont take my comment as being rude. What I meant was usually the first thing people do is install a bigger pump as soon as they start to mod the car.
At least I always do anyhow.


It makes since about the inline pump suscking the line dry. It moves more fuel than the stock unit can supply.

I would install a walbro 255 intank asap.
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Nah I didnt dude everything is cool. I just wished I would have upgraded it. I would have saved 250 dollars on the retune and about 50 dollars in gas if I had upgraded it first, but I am new to the Supercharged world and didnt know this would happen....I feel dumb for not thinking of it
 

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You gotta learn somehow...
 
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more aggressive doesnt always net you better results. You may make more hp on a dyno, but that doesnt mean **** when your cars in pieces. The only person ive heard say he tunes to safe was tyler but he always wanted to live on the ragged edge of power.

The difference between the 2 is quality of the tune you were there the nite I raced the 03 cobra with the 2.8 kb he was on 20lbs of boost and I was on 17lbs of boost, he made more hp than me and still only managed to put a nose clip on me, then after every race his car was shutting off due to piss poor tune so he would have to coast down and restart car.

Your money, but more aggressive doesnt always = better

I guess someone telling you that hes a conservative tuner would scare you away from him, as opposed to hearing about cars blowing up. Makes sense sink money into a car and then pick the most important part based on if hes to conservative or not.
Did he even log your maf voltage?? I bet not considering the twin turbo gt that he tuned was pegging the maf at 4k rpms. Guess what, its gonna be getting retuned cuz of stupid **** like that. At least it only cost him an intake from detonation
 

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more aggressive doesnt always net you better results. You may make more hp on a dyno, but that doesnt mean **** when your cars in pieces. The only person ive heard say he tunes to safe was tyler but he always wanted to live on the ragged edge of power.

The difference between the 2 is quality of the tune you were there the nite I raced the 03 cobra with the 2.8 kb he was on 20lbs of boost and I was on 17lbs of boost, he made more hp than me and still only managed to put a nose clip on me, then after every race his car was shutting off due to piss poor tune so he would have to coast down and restart car.

Your money, but more aggressive doesnt always = better

I guess someone telling you that hes a conservative tuner would scare you away from him, as opposed to hearing about cars blowing up. Makes sense sink money into a car and then pick the most important part based on if hes to conservative or not.
Did he even log your maf voltage?? I bet not considering the twin turbo gt that he tuned was pegging the maf at 4k rpms. Guess what, its gonna be getting retuned cuz of stupid **** like that. At least it only cost him an intake from detonation
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lol someone has hard feelings...listen bud you must know me but I dont think I know you. Anyway yeah agressive may not be better but every car is different and Dan helped me out alot when I got down there. He helped me put in my injectors. Also We had to trace wiries through my harness to find out why I did not have a TPS siganl. come to find out I had a broken wire and I never knew it. My car has wiring issues and I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT AARON DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO WORK ON YOUR CAR IN HIS SHOP. As fas as the MAF voltage I do not know if he clocked it or not I didnt check every little thing he did. All I know is my car runs 100000000000000000 times better than it EVER has. Not just with the SC but before it to/ It idles better runs smoother....And do you know how much more money he charged me for using his shop, using his tools and his help with ti all.......NOTHING. And trust me my car isnt detonating until it hits 4700 rpms and that is because of the fuel pump not being strong enough...and that is no fault of his. Look if you want to go to Aaron then that is fine. oh and TRUST ME there is more people than Tyler saying he tunes to safe. I agree with Tyler though I dont mind taking a little chance with power...... Ask John Bowman if Aaron tunes tooo safe. I heard he runs them tooo rich there fore keeping it safe but not power interested.
 
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first off your an idiot.

second he wont let people work on their cars only on dyno days if theres a problem during tuning then he will do whatever he can to get it worked out. So once again misinformation on your part.

3rd who is john bowman?

4th to rich? 11.5 is rich?? All supercharged cars he tunes to a 11.5 af. If he wants to keep the car safe all he does is dial the timing back. Once again your misinformation is astounding. Why tune the car to rich to conserver power that in itself can be disastrous from washing the cylinders down. If its a na car he will tune it in the 12's.

See the problem is when you tune a na car in "Good cool" weather conditions and you slap all that timing in it, and dont tell the car to pull timing when the iats get up there in the summer what you think is going to happen? BOOM

Trust me you are taking a chance with power, 13lbs on non-intercooled setup? Asking for it wait for that first 90+ degree day this summer and you'll be asking people to help you pick up the remains.

Cooler air temps > more boost

See you out there this weekend
 

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first off your an idiot.

second he wont let people work on their cars only on dyno days if theres a problem during tuning then he will do whatever he can to get it worked out. So once again misinformation on your part.

3rd who is john bowman?

4th to rich? 11.5 is rich?? All supercharged cars he tunes to a 11.5 af. If he wants to keep the car safe all he does is dial the timing back. Once again your misinformation is astounding. Why tune the car to rich to conserver power that in itself can be disastrous from washing the cylinders down. If its a na car he will tune it in the 12's.

See the problem is when you tune a na car in "Good cool" weather conditions and you slap all that timing in it, and dont tell the car to pull timing when the iats get up there in the summer what you think is going to happen? BOOM

Trust me you are taking a chance with power, 13lbs on non-intercooled setup? Asking for it wait for that first 90+ degree day this summer and you'll be asking people to help you pick up the remains.

Cooler air temps > more boost

See you out there this weekend
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HAHA I am an idiot well whatever you say bro. Your opionin means NOTHING to me. And 11.5s on a NA motor is TOOOOOO RICH and John Bowman has a 5.0 on motor that Aaron put in the 11s so misINFORMED on your part bud. And also I usually dont run my car in the day time. When you see me out is it day tme? Didnt think so...genius and as far as being intercooled I am getting one duhhhh so whatever. oh wait a minute they do a make a meth and water kit for my car...oh **** guess that wouldnt help huh...lol whatver bro I am not arguing with you anymore I dont care I am happy with my car why do you care where I get my car tuned anyway
 
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HAHA I am an idiot well whatever you say bro. Your opionin means NOTHING to me. And 11.5s on a NA motor is TOOOOOO RICH and John Bowman has a 5.0 on motor that Aaron put in the 11s so misINFORMED on your part bud. And also I usually dont run my car in the day time. When you see me out is it day tme? Didnt think so...genius and as far as being intercooled I am getting one duhhhh so whatever. oh wait a minute they do a make a meth and water kit for my car...oh **** guess that wouldnt help huh...lol whatver bro I am not arguing with you anymore I dont care I am happy with my car why do you care where I get my car tuned anyway
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not only are you stupid but you also quoted me where i said11.5 on supercharged and just below there i said if its na he tunes it in the 12's HAHA. Thanks for proving my point on how misinformed you really are. So in other words yes i agree NA 11.5 IS TOOOOOOOO RICH thats why he tunes them in 12's rofl

Once again I bet if I go get his graph it would be in the 12's. If its in the 11's it there for nitrous or forced induction. You crack me up

Edit: Meth is nice but its overated all it does is raise the octane of the fuel so to speak, it has a cooling effect but its marginal, also since it makes your tune rich it requires a specific tune just for it and you have to lean the car back out, so when you run out of meth better hope its not under boooost or kablooie. You think it magically gets 40degrees cooler during the summer? Remember on the 105degree days last year when it was in the mid to high 90's? You'll be thinking about it soon enough
 

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not only are you stupid but you also quoted me where i said11.5 on supercharged and just below there i said if its na he tunes it in the 12's HAHA. Thanks for proving my point on how misinformed you really are. So in other words yes i agree NA 11.5 IS TOOOOOOOO RICH thats why he tunes them in 12's rofl

Once again I bet if I go get his graph it would be in the 12's. If its in the 11's it there for nitrous or forced induction. You crack me up
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LOL glad I crack you up...and you are a dumbass...reread what I wrote. He is tuned in the 11s on MOTOR..yeah he sprays but not all the time but he is always running rich..I dont care if you believe me and dont care what you think..please stop posting in my thread. I posted my numbers to show everyone what it did, cause people asked me to. I didnt ask you what you thought about me going to Prodyno I went there and will continue to. END OF THAT DISCUSSION
 
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LOL glad I crack you up...and you are a dumbass...reread what I wrote. He is tuned in the 11s on MOTOR..yeah he sprays but not all the time but he is always running rich..
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so what your saying is hes running his nitrous tune that is tuned in the 11's when hes not spraying? Well yeah hes gonna be richer than he needs to be, thats why he should have a tune for naturally aspirated. LOL

reread? let me quote you for clarification

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blueblazes said:
4th to rich? 11.5 is rich?? All supercharged cars he tunes to a 11.5 af. If he wants to keep the car safe all he does is dial the timing back. Once again your misinformation is astounding. Why tune the car to rich to conserver power that in itself can be disastrous from washing the cylinders down. If its a na car he will tune it in the 12's.
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then you reply with this **** where you show your reading comprehension abilities
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mustangfan1990 said:
HAHA I am an idiot well whatever you say bro. Your opionin means NOTHING to me. And 11.5s on a NA motor is TOOOOOO RICH and John Bowman has a 5.0 on motor that Aaron put in the 11s so misINFORMED on your part bud.
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then you put this in where you admit the tune is right where it needs to be since he sprays the car. Its his choice if hes running around on a nitrous tune rather than a tune for naturally aspirated. He must have a switch chip so he could have a na tune that he could swap to if he wanted it so...

mustangfan1990 said:
LOL glad I crack you up...and you are a dumbass...reread what I wrote. He is tuned in the 11s on MOTOR..yeah he sprays but not all the time but he is always running rich..
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i think both of you need to go to a separate conner.
 

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ok whatever why are you still posting....and i think I know who you are now. You are the guy that beat me BARELY when i was a NA car lol
 
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3 cars when i was stock lol you held on to about a car till i put it in 4th gear and walked the dog on you, not to mention my car is full weight not 3200lbs lol
this is more in line with that race

and i never said your car wasnt fast it doesnt take much to move a 3200lb car down the road, now move a 4k lb lead sled with someone as big as me down the road thats different story

why am i still posting? because you keep posting inaccurate information that needs correcting.
also at this point its amusing
 

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blueblazes said:
3 cars when i was stock lol you held on to about a car till i put it in 4th gear and walked the dog on you, not to mention my car is full weight not 3200lbs lol
this is more in line with that race

and i never said your car wasnt fast it doesnt take much to move a 3200lb car down the road, now move a 4k lb lead sled with someone as big as me down the road thats different story

why am i still posting? because you keep posting inaccurate information that needs correcting.
also at this point its amusing
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LMAO 3 cars my ass you must have memory issues bud I was at your back bumper LMAO but whatever you say if it makes you feel better and 3200 lbs is a full car in my car. My car is a fully dressed car too not my fault your car weights more. You had a v8 with a SC should make up the weight diference. lol but whatver bud
 
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LMAO 3 cars my ass you must have memory issues bud I was at your back bumper LMAO but whatever you say if it makes you feel better and 3200 lbs is a full car in my car. My car is a fully dressed car too not my fault your car weights more. You had a v8 with a SC should make up the weight diference. lol but whatver bud
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dude dream on, you even commented on how you stayed with me till i hit 4th and pulled hard on you. My car is over 4k with me in it. I have ac, smog, mach 460, and full interior. Still rocking the spare to.

If I have memory issues you have cognitive reasoning ability issues.
 

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You guys need to take ths to PM befoe the mods drop the hammer on you both.
 

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5.0Droptop said:
You guys need to take ths to PM befoe the mods drop the hammer on you both.
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lol yeah I am done it doesnt matter when I am done with my setup my and him will race again and we will see who is in front
 

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457RWHP is just enough to split that thing in half
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Good luck!
 

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Good luck!
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I have seen more power that to a stock block and I said when I am DONE with my setup didnt say I was leaving it stock....so good luck to you
 

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There is a lot of truth to the broken block statement tho, There was a guy who posted in here recently that broke his block with around 500 crank hp....

Grover wasnt being a dick..... Nor was rick. Hes a awesome engine builder and knows his stuff...
 
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only 5.0 blocks to handle 500+ are the old r302, a302, and the new boss blocks, and of course the worldproducts, dart style blocks.

dont worry pro-dyno uses std numbers instead of sae numbers so in reality hes probably closer to 420's sae

he wouldve probably made more power on less boost considering his iat's post blower were most likely nearing 170+ degrees. I know they dont log iat's on those cars because it would require knowing the scalar between 1 and 5v and having a dyno capable of reading the voltage output from the sensor and equating that to a temperature. Lowering the temp with less boost most likely wouldve netted him a better gain in the hp dept. Cool weather he would see better results from more boost but when it warms up that 10lbs wouldve been much better
 
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