Cadillac ATS Brembo calipers

bird_dog0347 · Apr 4, 2020

no worries, I think/hope they will work for you, but can only compare them to what I have. Here's the link to my thread with the post about part numbers, etc.

Build Thread - Bird_dog0347's Fox Has The Squirts

Isn't that connection setup to only go on one way? It only has one flat spot for the bolt. I'm pretty sure this is correct. If I remember correct it can only go one way because of the flat spot for the bolt. Maybe it is possible to get it to turn one or two teeth in either direction and the...

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Mustang5L5 · Apr 4, 2020

A lot of sellers are mixing photos of the two up. The XTS and ATS are similar but not the same. The XTS uses a 13.6” rotor in its original setup, while ATS uses 12.6, so there are differences in size and height of the calipers.

XTS on left, ATS on right in all pics

They use the same exact brake pads and hardware. The XTS is physically bigger with a more pronounced curve. The ATS Caliper has two notches on the top curve that makes it easy to ID vs the XTS

90redfoxcnotch · Apr 4, 2020

Mustang5L5 said:
A lot of sellers are mixing photos of the two up. The XTS and ATS are similar but not the same. The XTS uses a 13.6” rotor in its original setup, while ATS uses 12.6, so there are differences in size and height of the calipers.

XTS on left, ATS on right in all pics

They use the same exact brake pads and hardware. The XTS is physically bigger with a more pronounced curve. The ATS Caliper has two notches on the top curve that makes it easy to ID vs the XTS

AWESOME!! Thank you so much...this definitely helped a lot! I have the one on the right so this will definitely work out. Looking forward to doing all this to my car once I can get back down to Florida to get my car. I am currently in NY unfortunately, stuck here with all this COVID 19 crap going on!...I am a fireman up here in NY, have 2 yrs left to retire--cant come soon enough!

So Cobra rotors will be my best bet? What year Taurus calipers is everyone using? Also I found a guy on Facebook making the kits to mount these calipers on sn95 spindles...almost the same stuff as in the forum..I can't post his info if anyone would like it? Charges 175 for the kit shipped!
Thank you guys again for all the help-hope you all stay safe!
John

90redfoxcnotch · Apr 4, 2020

bird_dog0347 said:
no worries, I think/hope they will work for you, but can only compare them to what I have. Here's the link to my thread with the post about part numbers, etc.

Build Thread - Bird_dog0347's Fox Has The Squirts

Isn't that connection setup to only go on one way? It only has one flat spot for the bolt. I'm pretty sure this is correct. If I remember correct it can only go one way because of the flat spot for the bolt. Maybe it is possible to get it to turn one or two teeth in either direction and the...

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Great! Thank you-I appreciate all your help.
Stay safe out there
John

bird_dog0347 · Apr 4, 2020

90redfoxcnotch said:
AWESOME!! Thank you so much...this definitely helped a lot! I have the one on the right so this will definitely work out. Looking forward to doing all this to my car once I can get back down to Florida to get my car. I am currently in NY unfortunately, stuck here with all this COVID 19 crap going on!...I am a fireman up here in NY, have 2 yrs left to retire--cant come soon enough!

So Cobra rotors will be my best bet? What year Taurus calipers is everyone using? Also I found a guy on Facebook making the kits to mount these calipers on sn95 spindles...almost the same stuff as in the forum..I can't post his info if anyone would like it? Charges 175 for the kit shipped!
Thank you guys again for all the help-hope you all stay safe!
John

That's the kit I have for the spacers and bushings, ssengineeringllc@gmail.com is the email I have for him to order the kit. I got my rear calipers off rock auto (part numbers in link to my thread) from I think a 93 Taurus... which I think is the same year/model I used for the front tie rods for my Termi steering rack on my 92.

90redfoxcnotch · Apr 4, 2020

bird_dog0347 said:
That's the kit I have for the spacers and bushings, ssengineeringllc@gmail.com is the email I have for him to order the kit. I got my rear calipers off rock auto (part numbers in link to my thread) from I think a 93 Taurus... which I think is the same year/model I used for the front tie rods for my Termi steering rack on my 92.

Cool...thank you and yup thats where I got my kit spacer and bushing kit from...I will look more into your thread for the part numbers on the taurus stuff. Thank you agin for all the info...you both have been a huge help! Liking this forum a lot already!

Mustang5L5 · Apr 4, 2020

93-98 taurus/sable/Continental.

You need the SN95 pad brackets though. You are making an SN95/taurus hybrid Caliper

90redfoxcnotch · Apr 4, 2020

Mustang5L5 said:
93-98 taurus/sable/Continental.

You need the SN95 pad brackets though. You are making an SN95/taurus hybrid Caliper

Ok and where would I find those? This using an sn95 rear? Is there any info on how to do this? Sorry again kind of new to all this using brakes from different cars.

Mustang5L5 · Apr 5, 2020

90redfoxcnotch said:
Ok and where would I find those? This using an sn95 rear? Is there any info on how to do this? Sorry again kind of new to all this using brakes from different cars.

What are you using for rear disk brakes? Should be using the 11.65” rotor and calipers from an 94-98 cobra.

Where the Taurus Caliper come in is that the Caliper portion of the above setup is replaced.

So in this pic, my setup is purely cobra brakes, except I swapped out the Caliper fit the Taurus 43mm unit (the bare cast Caliper in pic)

The red Caliper and bracket are the cobra parts, along with pads and rotor

Makes sense?

90redfoxcnotch · Apr 5, 2020

Yes makes sense for sure...Looks great! So far I'm still on stock 4 lug...havent got anything for the rear yet, working on getting some parts now and want to get the right stuff. I pretty much have everything for the front, just need the rotors and the brake line kit from MM. Can I do the front with the Cadillac brembos and keep the drums till I get all the parts for the rear disc swap or do I need to do everything at once? (I have 5 lug axles and drum setup that someone gave me) Will the stock master cylinder work if I just do the front temporarily? What exactly do you recommend for the rear? Should I just get a whole sn95 rear end or convert the fox body rear? Im assuming its easier to just swap rear ends. Thanks

bird_dog0347 · Apr 5, 2020

I do not think there is a master cylinder that will work with rear drums and anything bigger than the stock Fox front calipers, I'm pretty sure that will be dangerous. Your best bet is to use the axles and get a disk swap for the rear then do it all right the first time... good looking car though!

90redfoxcnotch · Apr 5, 2020

bird_dog0347 said:
I do not think there is a master cylinder that will work with rear drums and anything bigger than the stock Fox front calipers, I'm pretty sure that will be dangerous. Your best bet is to use the axles and get a disk swap for the rear then do it all right the first time... good looking car though!

Yeah you're probably right...and thank you about the car...I will see what I can find for a disk swap...was thinking about the kits from North racecars...I will check around and see what I can find...Tank you both agin for all your help...its much appreciated

90redfoxcnotch · Apr 10, 2020

Ok so I'm back LOL....got my calipers painted, just waiting for stickers to come so I can put them on and clear coat them. What master cylinder are you guys using? Cobra master cylinder? Are you guys using a 93 Cobra brake booster like I see a lot if guys running? I see some guys using SN95(V8 or V6) master and brake booster...What would you guys recommend I use?

bird_dog0347 · Apr 10, 2020

90redfoxcnotch said:
Ok so I'm back LOL....got my calipers painted, just waiting for stickers to come so I can put them on and clear coat them. What master cylinder are you guys using? Cobra master cylinder? Are you guys using a 93 Cobra brake booster like I see a lot if guys running? I see some guys using SN95(V8 or V6) master and brake booster...What would you guys recommend I use?

I've got a 94/95 V8 master (non-cobra) on mine, and I'm in the process of the swap which I hope to complete this weekend, just been too busy the last few weeks to finish. I'll have the master mentioned, brembo fronts, and 43mm rears. I'll report pedal feel after done and can drive.

90redfoxcnotch · Apr 11, 2020

bird_dog0347 said:
I've got a 94/95 V8 master (non-cobra) on mine, and I'm in the process of the swap which I hope to complete this weekend, just been too busy the last few weeks to finish. I'll have the master mentioned, brembo fronts, and 43mm rears. I'll report pedal feel after done and can drive.

thank you

mustang562 · Apr 17, 2020

Mustang5L5 said:
A lot of sellers are mixing photos of the two up. The XTS and ATS are similar but not the same. The XTS uses a 13.6” rotor in its original setup, while ATS uses 12.6, so there are differences in size and height of the calipers.

XTS on left, ATS on right in all pics

They use the same exact brake pads and hardware. The XTS is physically bigger with a more pronounced curve. The ATS Caliper has two notches on the top curve that makes it easy to ID vs the XTS

Maybe you can help me. I bought XTS calipers thinking I was getting ATS calipers, and I have them mounted on my car already. My question is, is it ok to run my cobra 13 inch rotors? Or, should I buy bigger rotors? Or sell them, and buy ATS calipers?

Mustang5L5 · Apr 17, 2020

mustang562 said:
Maybe you can help me. I bought XTS Calipers thinking I was getting ATS Calipers, and I have them mounted on my car already. my question is, is it ok to run my cobra 13 inch rotor? Or should I buy bigger rotors? Or sell them, and buy ATS Calipers?

The 13' rotor is too small for the XTS caliper. If they are mounted on your car? What rotor are you running?

I used a 2007ish GT500 14" rotor.

Caddilac XTS 14" Brembo brakes on a Mustang...under $300

Just messing around with this setup, no intention of running it, but pretty impressed how it fits together. Not strictly 100% bolt on though..but can be. Cobra 13" rotor on the right. They are Junkyard Caddy XTS Brembos, and GT500 14" rotors. I paid $90 for the paid of brembos from a...

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The rotor clearance to the caliper is tight. To center it, I had to machine a time bit of the caliper mounting face off at a time. I know the ATS kit comes with a spacer, but the ATS caliper is only fitting a 1.1" thick cobra rotor in the rotor channel, so a lot more forgiving. The GT500 Brembo is 1.25" thick, and the rotor channel on the XTS calipers is maybe 1.4". It's tight.

Looks badass though (rotor on right is the 13" cobra rotor)

mustang562 · Apr 17, 2020

Mustang5L5 said:
The 13' rotor is too small for the XTS caliper. If they are mounted on your car? What rotor are you running?

I used a 2007ish GT500 14" rotor.

Caddilac XTS 14" Brembo brakes on a Mustang...under $300

Just messing around with this setup, no intention of running it, but pretty impressed how it fits together. Not strictly 100% bolt on though..but can be. Cobra 13" rotor on the right. They are Junkyard Caddy XTS Brembos, and GT500 14" rotors. I paid $90 for the paid of brembos from a...

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The rotor clearance to the caliper is tight. To center it, I had to machine a time bit of the caliper mounting face off at a time. I know the ATS kit comes with a spacer, but the ATS caliper is only fitting a 1.1" thick cobra rotor in the rotor channel, so a lot more forgiving. The GT500 Brembo is 1.25" thick, and the rotor channel on the XTS calipers is maybe 1.4". It's tight.

Looks badass though (rotor on right is the 13" cobra rotor)

I currently have cobra 13 inch rotors. I wonder if i can find a larger rotor but with similar specs to 13 inch cobra.

Mustang5L5 · Apr 17, 2020

That would be the GT500 rotor.

If you are running the 13" rotors, then there would be serious overhang of the caliper.

mustang562 · Apr 17, 2020

Mustang5L5 said:
That would be the GT500 rotor.

If you are running the 13" rotors, then there would be serious overhang of the caliper.

I'm going to test a gt500 rotor tomorrow. I'll let you know what I find out.

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