You're silly Mike, when I said 10-15hp I was basing that off what you saidyou can feel 10hp difference in a car? No offense but I doubt it. Not that I advise it- throw a set of U/D pullleys on for less than $100 if you have to get 10hp somewhere for a lot less hassle and money. I bet you can't tell the difference with them either other than the cooling and charging issues.
Aftermarket cold air intakes offer near zero hp increase over the stock CAI- that is a fact. It is for looks. Same for shorty headers on a stock motor- you gain nothing in hp and may actually lose low end torque. Several magazines have done testing on shorty headers and most found minimal if any gains.
I think you have a case of listening to the marketing claims of companies vs. real world. If you listen to them you should get 15hp for the pullies, 15 for the CAI and 20 for shorty headers for a total of 50 hp over stock.. lol.. more like 10 which you can get by replacing the stock air filter with a K&N panel filter.
To the OP, do what you want. It's your time and money, but you will be dissapointed if you are expecting any real power gains with a simple intake swap.
Based on what you said these little upgrades are potentially worth some HP. Little money equals little HP gains, big money equals big HP gains. Some people don't have big money to sink in these cars so they should do what they can on the cheap. This is not an all or nothing passion in my opinion. When I did my headers, o/r h-pipe and flowmaster cat back the butt dyno showed improvement. Then the 3.73's really woke the car up. These upgrades work in my opinion, not big HP, but still an improvement over stock.unless you enjoy swapping out intakes, i wouldn't bother with an intake swap with stock heads and a cam. Maybe worth 10-15 hp. Same for shorty headers on a stock motor- maybe 10hp if that,
Like @stykthyn said, add another $5k to it and you get there but with a stock block most likely which is not the best idea. There are a few guys here that are about 430whp 'ish with a stock block, aluminum heads, cam, intake, Vortech super charger and lots of other supporting upgrades. A decent HCI combo alone with run you easy $4k with quality parts, the Vortech is another $3,500+ too. There may be some saving if you can find good deals used and you'll also have another $500 to $1k in dyno tuning on top of everything. The prices for everything goes up if you are paying a shop to do all this work for you.so I have $5000 budget....all I wanna get to is a 500hp thats it....So how do I get there
Add another 5k to that budget.
Noobz tell the man how much is in your set up.
This ^^these cars are just the right amount of fun with the proper suspension/chassis/brake package(for the intended usuage) AND 3-400 hp
For a weekend car I think bolt on's are a great start. Get the intake, put a cat back on it. The verts typically had 2.73 gears. Swap those out to 3.55 or 3.73s. I wouldn't touch headers unless the stock manifolds are in poor shape. If you do go with bbk since they have a solid 1 piece flange. Get a good set of subframes and a k member brace. The difference in ride quality and handling will be night and day with just those 2 things. You don't have to spend a ton to make these cars enjoyable.
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