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Seriously, try https://www.givemethevin.com/. My buddy literally got $2500 more than the dealer offered him which was $2000 more than Carmax.

I submitted. We will see what they say. I have the feeling a 152K mile taurus is not high on their list. I got the same sense from Carmax/Carvana.

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I think part of it is i'm insulted with the low offers but I get it. Not a high demand vehicle and high miles. But still....i kept this thing in fine shape.

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You did take great care of it, but i guess in the end it's still a car instead of an SUV and it's not an accord or camry.
Even those two have been bleeding new car sales over the last couple years.

If it's true all the car buying companies send high mileage cars to auction, i'm guessing their algorithm checks auction prices then subtracts $1000 so they can make a few bucks.
 
Back to fox stuff.

Got the hose and made up the fitting. Open end connects to power steering cooler and fitting will connect to bottle.

I need to drain my lines and empty the reservoir before I start hooking it up. Might use this opportunity to swap out the pressure relief….just in case.

When I step on the brake pedal, I can hear the pump strain and vibrate, so I assume the pressure relief is bleeding off. Perhaps the escort relief is too low

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Not yet. Gonna pop the stock Fox one in first. I do know folks have done hydro with that pump. Let’s give it a try since I’ll be there anyway.

I do have an aftermarket one that’s 1800psi relief pressure. Not sure I want to go that route yet.

The OeM pressure relief valves have different letters on it. I am assuming that’s the pressure spec for each. I have not found info on what letter means what.

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1800psi aftermarket on right. Valve from 86+ truck with letter “D” on left

My original 1988 pump has an “A”.
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I’ll see what the escort pump is when i pull that one out.
 
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I submitted. We will see what they say. I have the feeling a 152K mile taurus is not high on their list. I got the same sense from Carmax/Carvana.

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I think part of it is i'm insulted with the low offers but I get it. Not a high demand vehicle and high miles. But still....i kept this thing in fine shape.

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What amazes me is how much basket case desirable cars from Coparts sell for.. Salt water flooded smashed, basket cases with forklift damage courtesy of the coparts forklift drivers... Things have certainly changed from when I was younger.....
Clean cars that drive and start seem to always be desirable.... Yours looks like it fits that description
 
Ok The 18x9 wheels I wanted are back in stock. I ordered one today just for test fit purposes (in case i need to return it).

It's the 18x9 with +35 offset. I already have a pair of 18x9 +25's. Interestingly enough, they do not have 18x10's it seems. I want to confirm which offset i plan to put front and rear and then I will start picking my tire sizes and go from there.

TBH, with the timing of stuff i have going on, i may not get the tires on until next spring.
 
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It seems conventional wisdom is that you want about 6" back spacing in the rear for a 9" rim, but it seems to me like it's really more than that to get perfectly centered.

The calcs I've seen on backspacing vs. offset suggest that you add an inch to estimate the total width of the rim, not just the beadwidth but including the lip, divide that in half to get the true center, find the distance from the backspacing to the true center, and then multiply that by 25.4 to get the offet in mm. If that's right, then the 17x9 Cobra R wheels with a ~5.95" backspacing (R58) would have an offset of 24.13mm. The R179s, which you probably know are meant for a fox with SN95 axles, and have a 6.42" BS would have a ~36.1mm offset. The good news is that if you overshoot, you can always space it out. Hard to go the other way, though.

I don't know if any of that helps, but I think you're in the right ballpark. Are you on fox length or SN95 length axles?
 
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I swapped to Fox.

I test fit the 18x9 +25 out back and like where it sits. I think the +35 will work well up front but want to see clearance on the coilover spring first. Why I ordered just one. I’m trying to avoid a spacer up there
 
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I also wanted to change the center cap.

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And I got some correct size pony inserts for the caps. Not 100% I like this yet. I was on the fence about the tri-bar pony emblem and went with the standard pony. Not sure that was the right move

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It seems conventional wisdom is that you want about 6" back spacing in the rear for a 9" rim, but it seems to me like it's really more than that to get perfectly centered.

The calcs I've seen on backspacing vs. offset suggest that you add an inch to estimate the total width of the rim, divide that in half to get the true center, find the distance from the backspacing to the true center, and then multiply that by 25.4 to get the offet in mm. If that's right, then the 17x9 Cobra R wheels with a ~5.95" backspacing (R58) would have an offset of 24.13mm. The R179s, which you probably know are meant for a fox with SN95 axles, and have a 6.42" BS would have a ~36.1mm offset. The good news is that if you overshoot, you can always space it out. Hard to go the other way, though.

I don't know if any of that helps, but I think you're in the right ballpark. Are you on fox length or SN95 length axles?
My 17x9 are 6.182 backspacing. Made specifically for Foxes with 5 lug conversion….. from American Muscle.
I feel they fit perfect, so you’re right with that 6 inch spacing!
 
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I swapped to Fox.

I test fit the 18x9 +25 out back and like where it sits. I think the +35 will work well up front but want to see clearance on the coilover spring first. Why I ordered just one. I’m trying to avoid a spacer up there
Please report back. There should be a better tool than currently exists to adjust backspacing and mount a tire on. I'm guessing, because laziness, that you have the 94-95 spindle, and so your track-width up front is just a bit wider than stock fox. Like a couple tenths of an inch-ish on each side? Anyways, if you find the optimum 9" wheel BS and offset, I'm all ears. I ended up putting an 8" wheel up front on the black car because I was tired of rubbing and it did seem to resolve that. I think a 9" should be no problem if the BS/offset is right. There are coilovers on my setup, as well.

On "Grover," the blue car, though it's in a shop in Ohio at the moment and so not available for measurement, the 18x9s with the 94-95 spindles were too wide and @GroverDill used this setup to widen just enough to clear the tire, and I believe he did it with a 255. Thus, I feel a 245 is just about perfect, but I also suspect that if you got the BS/offset just right, it could be done without any special modifications, and could possibly include 255+ width tires:

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I dig your new center caps, and they are an improvement, but I have to say... sorry... the tri-bar for me would be the way to go if that's an option. There's something fresh about that red, white, and blue... call me a patriot, I guess.
 
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Please report back. There should be a better tool than currently exists to adjust backspacing and mount a tire on. I'm guessing, because laziness, that you have the 94-95 spindle, and so your track-width up front is just a bit wider than stock fox. Like a couple tenths of an inch-ish on each side? Anyways, if you find the optimum 9" wheel BS and offset, I'm all ears. I ended up putting an 8" wheel up front on the black car because I was tired of rubbing and it did seem to resolve that. I think a 9" should be no problem if the BS/offset is right. There are coilovers on my setup, as well.

On "Grover," the blue car, though it's in a shop in Ohio at the moment and so not available for measurement, the 18x9s with the 94-95 spindles were too wide and @GroverDill used this setup to widen just enough to clear the tire, and I believe he did it with a 255. Thus, I feel a 245 is just about perfect, but I also suspect that if you got the BS/offset just right, it could be done without any special modifications, and could possibly include 255+ width tires:

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I dig your new center caps, and they are an improvement, but I have to say... sorry... the tri-bar for me would be the way to go if that's an option. There's something fresh about that red, white, and blue... call me a patriot, I guess.
If I remember, (without searching back through the thread) he has the ‘96 spindles with the MM k member. I think that k member is made to work with the later spindles.
 
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