• Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-

Dyno Comparison Text: DBX VS PMAS MAF

  • Thread starter Thread starter Venom351R
  • Start date Start date Aug 3, 2009

Venom351R

Founding Member
Apr 27, 2002
4,548
40
98
MAINE
Aug 3, 2009
#1
  • Aug 3, 2009
  • #1
I have the opportunity to test out 2 meters in the past few months. The first dyno test was done w/ the DBX 97MM Mass air meter back on May 2ed. This Saturday Aug 8th I'll be going back for a re tune on the dyno but with a PMAS 95MM Velocity mass air meter. Same dyno, no other new mods at all.

Shortly after the May dyno tune ( Put down 333RWHP ) the DBX meter went bad on me. Took 6 weeks of chasing problems to finally figure out that it was the meter.

The PMAS 95MM Velocity meter came from Brown Santa today. I hooked it up and took the car out for a spin and the seat of the pants meter went off the chart!!! I cant belive how hard it pulled, I could not keep the rear tires planted w/ the Nitto DR's. I dont think the Cobra has ever pulled this hard before.

Conclusion: I think the DBX meter was going bad for quite awhile, even for the dyno tune so I dont think the 333 RWHP truly represents what the car has w/ the mods b/c it pulled like a raped ape tonight. It will be interesting to see the outcome this Saturday but I'll be highly surprised if it does not pull more this time around.



VS:

 

Black95GTS

Active Member
Jan 8, 2004
1,644
3
38
Marlborough, MA
Aug 4, 2009
#2
  • Aug 4, 2009
  • #2
Looking forward to results... where in Maine do you dyno??

Adam
 

nmcgrawj

Advanced Member
Sep 28, 2003
3,651
4
68
Indianapolis, IN
Aug 4, 2009
#3
  • Aug 4, 2009
  • #3
Unless its back to back, its not that great of comparison using dynos 3months apart and like u said, the old meter was probably on its way out.


It'll be interesting none the less, keep us posted.
 

Venom351R

Founding Member
Apr 27, 2002
4,548
40
98
MAINE
Aug 4, 2009
#4
  • Aug 4, 2009
  • #4
nmcgrawj said:
Unless its back to back, its not that great of comparison using dynos 3months apart and like u said, the old meter was probably on its way out.


It'll be interesting none the less, keep us posted.
Click to expand...


not exactly an old meter. it was less then 1 yr since I bought it

Its as close as it can get the only difference is the temperature and that would be in favor of the DBX meter b/c its much warmer now.

Black95GTS said:
Looking forward to results... where in Maine do you dyno??



Adam
Click to expand...


I dont I go to Concord N.H
 
T

turbogt

Member
May 1, 2003
723
16
19
Montana
Aug 4, 2009
#5
  • Aug 4, 2009
  • #5
so the Dbx was crap??


Another reason I'm going to speed density
 

RIO5.0

15 Year Member
Feb 16, 2001
6,892
8
128
N.H.
Aug 4, 2009
#6
  • Aug 4, 2009
  • #6
Good luck to ya...What time you running??? If it's nice out I may take a fly up on the bike to watch...
 

Venom351R

Founding Member
Apr 27, 2002
4,548
40
98
MAINE
Aug 5, 2009
#7
  • Aug 5, 2009
  • #7
turbogt said:
so the Dbx was crap??


Another reason I'm going to speed density
Click to expand...



Dont know yet but the dyno should tell if it was or not

RIO5.0 said:
Good luck to ya...What time you running??? If it's nice out I may take a fly up on the bike to watch...
Click to expand...


Same time as before, 9 AM
 

Venom351R

Founding Member
Apr 27, 2002
4,548
40
98
MAINE
Aug 8, 2009
#8
  • Aug 8, 2009
  • #8
Here are the results. The base timing was moved from 10* to 12*. Found a few more HP in it but the mid range is much stronger and its still pulling hard all the way to redline.


 

final5-0

Mustang Master
Apr 6, 2003
6,817
12
79
DFW Texas
Aug 8, 2009
#9
  • Aug 8, 2009
  • #9
I have a question

You say the timing was moved from 10 to 12

Are you tuning with a chip
or
Are you just using the dizzy and afpr to change the pressure

Grady
 
T

turbogt

Member
May 1, 2003
723
16
19
Montana
Aug 9, 2009
#10
  • Aug 9, 2009
  • #10
final5-0 said:
I have a question

You say the timing was moved from 10 to 12

Are you tuning with a chip
or
Are you just using the dizzy and afpr to change the pressure

Grady
Click to expand...

he said base timing so I'm sure that was with the dizzy, advancing the global timing by 2
 

Venom351R

Founding Member
Apr 27, 2002
4,548
40
98
MAINE
Aug 9, 2009
#11
  • Aug 9, 2009
  • #11
just moved the dizzy and its tuned w/ a SCT Chip



The question is to is the improved power through the RPM range due to just moving the timing from 10* to 12* or did maybe something to do w/ the difference in meters? At 3,500 RPM Im pulling 100 more RWHP and TQ between the two runs
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

SURGING IDLE / NO IDLE CHECKLIST FOR 1996–1998 MUSTANG GT (4.6L 2V) - Work In Progress
  • Noobz347
  • Aug 30, 2025
  • 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk-
Replies
0
Views
685
1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk- Aug 30, 2025
Noobz347
SURGING IDLE / NO IDLE CHECKLIST FOR 1999–2004 MUSTANG GT (4.6L 2V) - Work In Progress
  • Noobz347
  • Aug 30, 2025
  • 1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk-
Replies
0
Views
817
1996 - 2004 SN95 Mustang -General/Talk- Aug 30, 2025
Noobz347
For Sale 2004 Mustang GT w/ Vortech Ti Trim
  • 50Dreamer
  • Oct 28, 2023
  • SN95 Mustangs For Sale (1994-04)
Replies
0
Views
2K
SN95 Mustangs For Sale (1994-04) Oct 28, 2023
50Dreamer
Z
Finishing Touches On Sc V2 Install
  • ZachMorris
  • Jan 31, 2018
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
  • 5 6 7
Replies
126
Views
11K
1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk- Apr 29, 2018
ZachMorris
Z
Engine '88 GT Has No Power Above 3000 RPM After Trick Flow 11r Heads Install
  • JRerecich
  • Feb 12, 2020
  • Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech
  • 2 3 4
Replies
67
Views
11K
Fox 5.0 Mustang Tech Feb 23, 2020
tinker451
T
Share:
Bluesky Email Share Link
  • Mustang Forums
  • 1979 - 1995 (Fox, SN95.0, & 2.3L) -General/Talk-
Menu
Log in

Register

  • Forums
  • What's new
  • Media
  • Resources
  • Contact
  • Sponsor
X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?

X

Privacy & Transparency

We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:

  • Personalized ads and content
  • Content measurement and audience insights

Do you accept cookies and these technologies?