Hey whats up! More 2.3 power needed

#361
evintho said:
You beat me to it! I was just about to tell you that! I had the same problem when I dropped the motor into my roadster. A guy over on TurboFord told me my VAM was backwards. Happens to the best of us!

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Hahaha i coppied the placement of your vam jn the other picture you sent, figured you had it right.
 
#362
IM PISSED.

it blew up.

It ran, i fixed the vam, it was running nice, making cool noises, i gave it one good pull and ..... POP AND A :poo: ton of smoke out the back. Engine dies. I pull over, and theres milkshake all over my fender.

What caused this? Well.
1. Me
2. Cylinder head. When I got it back from the machine shop it was almost as if they ran the head through the decking machine too fast, if you dragged your fingernail across it you could feel the ridges from The cutting.

3. Improper boost control.

I had a gauge hooked up, when I did my lighter pulls, from about 20 to 30 mph, it made about 5 to 10 psi of boost, i turned my boost controller all the way out so it made as little boost as possible for now.

The way i have it hooked up may be the issue, instead of getting boost pressure straight from the outlet, its getting it from the tree, more of a delay, i also dont have my blow off valve hooked up, figued the turbo coup didnt have one, why should mine? Atleast for now

One of those three things i mentioned is definitely the cause of the head gasket popping.

Oil in the pan is milkshaked. Im pissed, im gonna go pull my head
 
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#363
Engine went boom boom pretty good. Me and chip think i ran too much boost. Tomorrow I'm taking the head to a machine shop to get the head decked.

While the head is in the shop I'm going to figure out a more safe way to run all this boost, figure a better way to regulate it, figure a better way to not get so much.

Damn thing did rolling burnouts at 20 mph in second gear, I wasn't even trying to do that LMAO

This engines bad ass, but also scares me, when it was n/a took a while to get to 4000 rpm, with this new motor, its at 5500 like as soon as the boost kicks in, scares me
 

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#367
FIGURED OUT THE CAUSE OF THE BOOM BOOM.

so, the head gasket blew because of over boosting, i had my waste gate hooked up from the vacuum tree, to a regulator, to the waste gate, while i did my ecu conversion, one of the steps was to remove the map harness vacuum line, which i didn't do. i plugged it. Sooooo on my test drive, that bolt i used to plug that line popped out, causing a boost leak. because of that boost leak, i did not get enough pressure to my boost controller to open, and definetly did not get enough for the waste gate. because it was all dumping out that popped vacuum line. my engine made a crap ton of boost and blew out that gasket big time.

so, my remedy will be to do what some of you said, drill out the embosment on my turbo, and put a vaccum port on it and run it straight to my waste gate, and im doing that for safety, not drivability
 
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#368
Noobz347 said:
See if these guys have a gasket for your application:

Ford Gaskets

Cometic Gasket supplies hi-performance gaskets for a variety of motorsports markets: ATV, Drag Race, Domestic Automotive, Harley-Davidson®, MX/Dirt, Off-Road, PWC, Road Race, Snowmobile, Sport Compact and Street.
www.cometic.com
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they do! i wonder if its better than the 1035 that chip recomended me
 
#369
Piranahbite said:
they do! i wonder if its better than the 1035 that chip recomended me
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Ask him. Tell him it's a Cometic gasket. Read up on surface prep before you commit.

It's pretty much the gold standard for boosted applications.

Word of caution: Your internals are likely to 'give it up' before the gasket does.
 
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Noobz347 said:
Ask him. Tell him it's a Cometic gasket. Read up on surface prep before you commit.

It's pretty much the gold standard for boosted applications.

Word of caution: Your internals are likely to 'give it up' before the gasket does.
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Yep, i just got done with my local machine shop, they recommend a cometic gasket also, there gonna deck my head super smoothe and i got a straight edge for my block im borrowing, they said if i cant fit the smallest guage under it its good to go... So, cometic it it is! Anyone have a gasket measument?
 
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Piranahbite said:
Yep, i just got done with my local machine shop, they recommend a cometic gasket also, there gonna deck my head super smoothe and i got a straight edge for my block im borrowing, they said if i cant fit the smallest guage under it its good to go... So, cometic it it is! Anyone have a gasket measument?
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They use to have it on the site.
 
#373
Piranahbite said:
they do! but im asking for the recomended gasket thickness, because i have options on the cometic site, but no real measurements with felpro, atleast what iv found so far

ALSO! what do you recomend for head studs? any modifications i need to make to the head? or the block?
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No mods are necessary that I'm aware of. ARP studs, hands down. Make sure you get their "torque juice" too.
 
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I will guess tho, that since you're getting the heads milled, it might be thicker than it would be on unmilled parts? :shrug:

Ask the machinist how much he takes off when he's done and add that number to the regular thickness.
 
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Noobz347 said:
I will guess tho, that since you're getting the heads milled, it might be thicker than it would be on unmilled parts? :shrug:

Ask the machinist how much he takes off when he's done and add that number to the regular thickness.
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ok! stock replacement fel pro head gasket is 0.048" witha bore of 3.93" converted to mm thats about 99.82mm. im assuming ill need the .051"( 3 layers) or the .060" ( 5 layers) id have to get the head gasket with a 100mm bore becasue my other option is 97 wich is too small for my block depending on how much they take off this (to my knowledge would be the second time the this head has been shaved) ill have to get either the .51" or the .60" those are my only options


would it be better to have a larger gasket or thinner for this situation?

while im doin my homework, can somone send me an arp head stud set for my engine?
i found this set for a hundred bucks its on jegs and out of stock, and for the n/a 2.3 will these do for the turbo motor?

 
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Got an update for you guys on my plan for a head gasket. I'm gonna stick with the felpro 8993, id much rather my gasket blow than my motor, and the reason it blew was my own mistake. So I don't see why I should change to something that will last longer than my rods and block
 
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Piranahbite said:
Got an update for you guys on my plan for a head gasket. I'm gonna stick with the felpro 8993, id much rather my gasket blow than my motor, and the reason it blew was my own mistake. So I don't see why I should change to something that will last longer than my rods and block
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That is probably wise if you predict similar issues going forward.

I might even suggest switching to a Cometic gasket [after] you get the entire combo ironed out.
 
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