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93gtmustang

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I use my car strictly for drag racing. I was told by a fellow racer at the track, that if I put a F303 cam in, a Trick Flow Track Heat Intake, 30 lb injectors, 75mm throttle body, I would run 12.4 et all day. My car runs 13.1 to 13.3
Sounds like big gains from just a cam, intake, and injectors. I don't think so? What do all of you think?
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On stock heads? Doubtful

edit: not without a lot of suspension setup, weight removal, and driver skill.
 

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Whoops! I guess it would help if I put what I have for a motor etc....
Ford Racing M-6007-XB3M 5.0 Crate Motor/ 345 flywheel hp / B-303 cam / 24# injectors / Edelbrock Perfomer Intake / Stock air box K&N Panel filter / Throttle body is 70 or 75 mm (can't remember at the moment) /
 

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In that case, with suspension work you should be able to run 12s now. It’s all about weight transfer and hooking.

but for the engine combo, I would do a different cam. At that level of mod, I would invest in a good custom grind cam and matching spring set.
 
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Mustang5L5 said:
On stock heads? Doubtful

edit: not without a lot of suspension setup, weight removal, and driver skill.
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After market upper and lower control arms, 4:30 gears, Detroit Locker, 31 spline Moser axles, Lakewood drag shocks, only weight removal is front bumper fog light bar, about 13-18 lbs., full interior, T-5z Tremec manual transmission. Been drag racing for years. Weld rear wheels with Hoosier slicks, skinnys in front
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
In that case, with suspension work you should be able to run 12s now. It’s all about weight transfer and hooking.

but for the engine combo, I would do a different cam. At that level of mod, I would invest in a good custom grind cam and matching spring set.
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Thanks for the info. I had sold my car back in 2016. I just bought it back. I forgot to mention fiberglass hood for weight reduction. The guy that had bought it was 300 plus pounds, I'm 165 pounds. He ran 13.10 et. he said I should be breaking into the the 12's now.
 

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Also sub-frame connectors, shorty headers to h-pipe, no cats, slp mufflers after h-pipe under the car not out the back.
 
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With those mods,that car should be WAY faster than that. What does it 60ft? For comparison,I ran 13.20@102mph in a completely stock engined LX.
 
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If I had to guess.. it's in the tune.

I would not use a ford racing letter cam in one of my engines even if it was given to me...
 

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Get the SFCs with seat mount braces and check the floor for cracks by the rear seat mounting points. My 79 5.0 manual hatch came with a cracked driver’s floor. The previous owner was not that big, but with getting in and out a lot as a sales vehicle and the force from pushing the clutch, reinforcement was needed.
When it hooks, you’ll also want torque box reinforcements.
 

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Monkeybutt2000 said:
With those mods,that car should be WAY faster than that. What does it 60ft? For comparison,I ran 13.20@102mph in a completely stock engined LX.
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Wow thats good for completely stock! Is your LX full interior? My GT full interior 3100 lbs. without driver.
 

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a91what said:
If I had to guess.. it's in the tune.

I would not use a ford racing letter cam in one of my engines even if it was given to me...
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Yeah the engine came built from Ford Racing. Had the choice of E or B cam. Couldnt be the price back when I bought it $3500.00 complete and it held up well.
What do you think I would pick up for horse power with a different cam?
 

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7991LXnSHO said:
Get the SFCs with seat mount braces and check the floor for cracks by the rear seat mounting points. My 79 5.0 manual hatch came with a cracked driver’s floor. The previous owner was not that big, but with getting in and out a lot as a sales vehicle and the force from pushing the clutch, reinforcement was needed.
When it hooks, you’ll also want torque box reinforcements.
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I'll check that. I battle boxes planned in the future.
 
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93gtmustang said:
Wow thats good for completely stock! Is your LX full interior? My GT full interior 3100 lbs. without driver.
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Wish I still had it. Full interior,all it had was Megabyte jr control arms,subframe connectors and removed front sway bar,that's it. Again,what does your car 60ft?
 

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Wish I still had it. Full interior,all it had was Megabyte jr control arms,subframe connectors and removed front sway bar,that's it. Again,what does your car 60ft?
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60 ft. was like 1.7-1.8
 

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So forget the cam and injectors for now. Maybe latter on.
I have an Edelbrock Performer 5.0 on the motor. Would changing to the Trick Flow Track Heat intake make much of a difference?
The Perfomer flows from idle to 5500 rpms. The Track Heat flows from 1500 to 6500. Just wondering.
 

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93gtmustang said:
So forget the cam and injectors for now. Maybe latter on.
I have an Edelbrock Performer 5.0 on the motor. Would changing to the Trick Flow Track Heat intake make much of a difference?
The Perfomer flows from idle to 5500 rpms. The Track Heat flows from 1500 to 6500. Just wondering.
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I think the track heat would match your cam better but I don't think that's what limiting you. Also, maybe I'm preaching to the choir, but injectors do not add HP, they only support it. You're good with those 24# injectors until you add more cubes or boost.

Have you had your car on the dyno? Have a computer tune? I agree with the others, you should be faster with what you already have. My $.02, make what you have work before you start throwing parts and money at it and still have an under performing vehicle. Have a slip you can post up? Lets see your car!
 
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That should be a 12 second car as it is.
 

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93gtmustang said:
The Perfomer flows from idle to 5500 rpms. The Track Heat flows from 1500 to 6500. Just wondering.
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What is your launch, shift and trap RPM? If none are over 5500 rpm, no real need for an intake that goes higher.
 
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MID-LOW 12 sec car...with the right driver.
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That should be a 12 second car as it is
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